I think this highlights what people think when they hear "defederating" vs its actual purpose. It's controversial when it's between serious instances that people actually use but with wildly incompatible opinions, but there's very few objections when it's blocking CSAM!

[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'd imaging its fur and anime, not CSAM.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fur, anime, and CSAM groups have a not so insignificant overlap of members sometimes, sadly.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk -1 points 2 years ago

Judging from some of the other comments in this thread I'm not so sure

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay, yeah this was my thought as I wrote this, I won't deny it. But to be fair, LemmyGrad does more than just to be controversial. They provoke and brigade and justify terrible Crimes against Humanity. And I might bet that some of the Stuff they say could even be illegal here in Germany.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

I imagine most of the big servers have them blocked but it's probably the individual servers that make up the majority of the numbers. If you're self-hosting then you can just ignore instances you don't like and be relatively confident they won't hassle you. The other kind though, probably want to preempt them!

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Places like Lemmygrad and Hexbear are actually pretty benign. They're just on the verge of being acceptable to people so they make a lot of noise and cause a lot of drama but in terms of the actual bad actors... well, as you can see, they don't even rate.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meh, I don't really find the open mass murder fetish benign at all. I don't care what color your fash is, it's still abhorrent.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I guess it's slightly better that they're mostly honest deniers instead of "they had it coming" types.

I think. I personally find it refreshing in small doses to deal with people that actually know what the fuck they're talking about in terms of political theory, some of the shit .world users will say is...

Upsetting, intellectually.

Of course, so is talking to a genuine Stalinist.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

My experience with hexbear has been pretty fucking far from them knowing political theory, outside of one very specific niche they can kind of articulate as long as you don't ask them to reduce any of it to fundamentals or first principles.

As far as I can tell, their one trick is quoting books they haven't actually read, assuming nobody else has read them either. I've literally had this same interaction three or four times at this point, over books which don't say the things they think they say. Like multiple people arguing that some Chomsky work supports their orthodox ML theory.

You can literally get them to argue against the works they are trying cite by quoting them. It's amusing for a bit, but then it's just sad.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hexbear and Lemmygrad are different instances, but tbh at this point I'm just happy with people that can at least vaguely define liberalism and socialism, and I don't have to see the great minds upvote "communism is right wing, AKSHUALLY, because right wing means authoritarian."

Edit: ah wait, your comment was under one about both, I conflated it with the other chain about Lemmygrad specifically.

[–] neidu@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Agreed. While I tend to disagree with most of the viewpoints coming from lemmygrad, at least the content is posted with benign intent. The room might stink, but nobody intentionally shat on the floor.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one -1 points 2 years ago

The room might stink, but nobody intentionally shat on the floor.

I like this figure of speech a lot, stealing it 😁

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think lemmygrad isn’t that bad considering pedo.school is halfway through the list.

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

True, but LemmyGrad can be wild too. I met one who claimed being Homosexual is imperialistic. https://lemmy.world/post/4494303

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah yes the urge to kiss boys and conquer territory

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Lemmygrad and Hexbear most definitely do not tolerate homophobia, though, so I don't think that user would've lasted long there if they were a lemmygrad user.

[–] Arelin@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Isn't that a .world user? Lemmygrad doesn't allow homophobes as a rule. Probably why they couldn't register on that instance.

Being gay and imperialist is a hilarious thought though lol

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

When you are a queen but want to be THE Queen.

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