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[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Both Crowder and Shapiro have claimed this. They point out that the Nazi party was the 'National Socialist German workers' party' and claim that's enough for it to be socialist, and then also claim Russia is a communist country.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Crowder and Shapiro are complete idiots.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Idiots? On the right? Arguing in bad faith? You don't say...

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

The USSR was a communist country. A normal use of that term is that a country communist is one that's run by a communist party.

If you mean it didn't achieve communism, well duh communism is a hypothesized society achieved through socialism where the state ceases to exist. No socialists, including the people of the USSR, would think that their nation-state has achieved communism as that's oxymoronic. They would think of it as a transitional socialist state.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

There's a Hitler quote somewhere, in some letter that was like "we laugh at the fools who think our ideology has anything to do with the socialism of the bolsheviks"

There was another one where he says "I didn't want to kill the Jews, but they're all communists"

Someone with a better ability to keep track of sources than me probably knows where to find them