So, you brought one thing to the table. Biden sent tank shells to Israel. Personally, I dont support either side in that war, and maybe this is selfish, but I really don't care either. They've been blowing each other up for decades and it hasn't affected my life yet.

If I'm understanding you, sending tank shells to Israel is just as bad as everything Trump did put together. Is this correct?

If you really aren't familiar with what Trump did, I can find you a list of his crimes. (Not controversial policies, CRIMES.)

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure why I didn't realize it before, but you just made me realize that if the Palestinians had the upper hand right now, they would absolutely be wiping out Israel. The world allowed this division to foment for too long; our failure to enforce UN resolutions means both Israel and Palestine have set aside the idea that the global community will ever hold Israel accountable. For Israel, that means acting with impunity, for Palestine that has meant taking matters into their own hands, however hopeless that is, because they gave up on international justice. (and rightly so, it's a performative joke)

What's the first thing you do when you try to get two people to stop fighting? You separate them and give them some time and space to calm down, that's not possible here so the two nations are permanently like two boxers nose to nose.

[–] olivebranch@lemmy.ca -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Liberals get so focused on law, not questioning what the law is about and who wrote that law and for what purpose. Killing innocent people is the worst thing you can support, even an insurrection, as horrible as it is, if it didn't get as many innocent people killed, is far less immoral then actual war.

If your ideology is unquestionably supporting the law, then you are fascist, by definition.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh. So you're just here to dance around any actual conversation. Nevermind.

If I wanted riddles, I'd talk to the Sphinx.

[–] olivebranch@lemmy.ca -2 points 8 months ago

I thought I replied to the main point of the argument. I can reply to those specific questions, but I don't think that really communicates my point. It is not necessarily as bad, but it is very close. I don't really think that most problems with Trump are comparable to killing huge population of innocent people. Most of the problems are general racism, corruption and thievery. Most articles critiquing Trump aren't about how he rounded up a bunch of innocent people in Gaza and starved them to death. As horrible as he is, you need to see the weight of these actions by Democrates and that they can not be accepted under no circumstances. They should be addressed as a priority.