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Mod That Makes ‘Baldur’s Gate 3’ Less Gay Gets Nuked After Players Revolt (www.vice.com)
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[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They're not. Context matters. If i say you can't back up on a highway, that doesn't mean you can't back up into a parking spot. Straight people have never been an oppressed minority, there's nothing hateful about fantasizing about your favorite white character being black like you or something. There is a hateful history behind wishing all black characters were removed from a game.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the intent has hate, it's hateful. If there is no intent to be hateful, it's not hateful. Hate require intent. You can't be hateful if you don't hate anyone, and you can be hateful regardless of whether or not you're part of a traditionally oppressed group.

What you are arguing is that some actions, based on historical context, are more acceptable than others. Something that I tend to agree with, to a limited extent.

But if two people are doing the same exact thing for the same exact reason, and you are labelling on a bigot and the other perfectly acceptable based on their sexuality, its more likely youre the bigot. Although, really, I think youre just confused about an extremely touchy and complicated subject that doesn't have easy answers.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But if two people are doing the same exact thing for the same exact reason

Sure, if we're talking about small children innocently changing characters to be more like them, that's a totally fair argument. But the context here is a publicly homophobic modder working for weeks to create a full mod to erase gay characters.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm talking about intent, and people have pointed out that the intent of the creator was hateful, so the creator is a bigot. But the top level comment that I responded to was a pretty blanket statement that any changing of a character (gay to straight or black to white) was bigoted "plain and simple."

I'm disagreeing with that premise, not that the modder is a bigot.