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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 55 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Looks like those guys will shoot anyone. With such a gross power imbalance how can they be so scared of everything?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/16/middleeast/what-we-know-hostages-killed-israel-gaza/index.html

IDF destroyed Israeli homes (with Israelis inside) when Hamas raided them on Oct 7, and now they are indiscriminantly bombing Gaza, including where the hostages might be. I don't see the logic at all. It seems like they don't care about Palestinian OR Israeli civilians.

EDIT: I just stumbled upon this video, which shows Israeli police arresting a (black) Israeli soldier for trying to cross the street. It seems racist af. I really can't figure out who they are protecting.

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Civilian life was never a priority

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's a hard sell to say that it was.

Israel: We are using surgical strikes and guided missles to uproot Hamas.

† 15,000 people killed †

World: So you specifically targeted all those 15,000 people?

Israel: How could you be so anti-semitic??

Narrator: Turns out they were actually not trying to minimize civilian casualties at all.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah, it's not about targeting Hamas. It's about killing as many Palestinians and destroying as much of Gaza as possible. They said so themselves

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Yes it is, just not in the way it usually is. ENDING civilian lives is very much a priority of their genocidal campaign.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s a military force full of conscripts it’s not a surprise they operate at an amateur level. These guys aren’t trained to rescue hostages they are only trained to shoot. There is a reason why most countries have gotten rid of conscription. Conscripted soldiers are nowhere near the level of a vetted and trained volunteer

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

There is a saying: "The worst volunteer is better than the best conscript".

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

So... they don't even teach what white flags mean?

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's what bothers me most: the incidence shows how Israeli military treats civilians in general but at least where I live, media doesn't talk about the implications. The coverage is more critical than at the beginning of the war but they still refuse to call it a genocide.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Hell, they even censured a Palestinian-American congresswoman for pointing out that obvious fact!

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Take a look at this. It's a bunch of testimoniess from IDF soldiers about what happened when theie military ran similar operations in 2014. Looks like this is generally how the IDF operates.

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/pdf/ProtectiveEdge.pdf

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 3 points 11 months ago

This is insane. How could Hamas publish this?

/s