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Users of early Nissan Leaf and e-NV200 vehicles in the UK will no longer be able to remotely set off-peak charging routines or climate control schedules

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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is why I stick with old used cars, what it says on the tin is what I get and that won't change.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

With benefits (cheap, functional, easy to buy and get fixed anywhere) of big centralized production come, as people not warned of this by common wisdom can now see, some inconveniences.

I think it's normal.

Maybe in 20 years or so when everybody gets conscious and afraid of such dynamics, most things will be dumb, inefficient, expensive, but also more predictable and relevant for longer.

When I was a kid, it seemed cool to me that you can buy cheap things made in China from plastic. I thought the future is that everything will be cheap and easy to get, even if bad and made from plastic - the most important thing is, it's there.

Now the feeling is the opposite, well, I change (20 years older and no better), humanity also changes.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

When I was a kid, it seemed cool to me that you can buy cheap things made in China

....

Now the feeling is the opposite,

With age comes wisdom

[–] zerkrazus@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Right?

Though I'm sure if they can figure out someway to force subscription bullshit in there, they will.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago

Fortunately it sounds like this doesn't actually affect any of the car's functions, just it's ability to interface with an app

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Older cars are far more unsafe though, I witnessed a near head on accident just the other day and went to help the occupants so I got to see it up close

Both vehicles were about the same amount of fucked up, except one was older. I'd peg it as a 2000-2005. The occupants of the older one were pretty messed up injury wise, though they did survive. It had standard airbags.

The other vehicle, I'd peg around mid to late 2010's, the occupants walked away without a scratch, and their vehicle interior looked like a freaking bounce house

Yea, I'll risk some manufacturer taking away my heated seats in exchange for the higher vehicle safety of a newer vehicle

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

That's a variable among brands and models of cars, largely.

If the older car had been a different model, it would be a different outcome.

My 2006 car has airbags all over the place, and they're of the variable-deployment variety... Becuase it's a brand/model that made their cars this way.

Using "less safe" as a metric is kind of silly at this point. The safety of vehicles since the 90's is just unbelievable. I witnessed a head-on impact in about 1994, with one car that had airbags (so it was newer at the time, hut using airbags of that era, before variable-deployments tech). That driver walked away too - the car was clearly totalled.

It really depends on the scenario. As a driver, you are the single greatest influence of safety in a car.

As someone who's been driving for 40 years, I've had exactly 2 accidents - both on my motorcycle, from other drivers not seeing me. So there's the odds of being in an accident to consider too. And both of those situations I consider avoidable by me.

None of my cars have been in accidents - I've avoided quite a few.