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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by utnapishtim@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

Hi, I'm learning python and I have purchased a 2015 MacBook air. I want to install Linux on it (Ubuntu) but my friend who's a developer told me to leave the MacOs because they are similar as operative systems. What do you think? Should I change the os and switch to Linux? Thanks. Edit: thank you for your replies. There are still so many things I don't understand about programming and os, sorry about that.

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[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You sound like you're a bit new to software engineering/computer science, so I would stick to MacOS. Linux as a Desktop OS is not quite a pain-free experience and you'd likely run into issues that would get in the way of you learning programming.

What people mean by MacOS and Linux being similar is that they are both Unix-based, which basically means that the command-line experience in both OS's is pretty much the same.

[–] Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't call Linux a "not quite pain-free experience".
IMO, the experience has been dramatically improved in the last 2 years or so, and the only pain for most people is just that it's a new OS with new workflows and approaches.
Or what would you call painful?

Just as a background, I'm no IT-guy, just casual user who's into this weird OS :D

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let me guess, you started using Linux daily around 3 years ago?

In my experience the pains of Linux have been the same for decades (well, not really, xorg.conf was a major pain in the ass). I think in general people get used to Linux and after a year or so and they think the system became simpler, when in reality it's more that they learned the Linux way of thinking.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fair point, but still it can really be easy.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You might have misinterpreted me, I believe Linux is easy, in fact easier than Windows, but people are just not used to it. When they get used to it it becomes simple, but it's more in the person to adjust their viewpoint than Linux to get easier. However to the person it seems that Linux is progressively becoming easier, because they fail to acknowledge their changes. But when you've been using Linux for 20 years as your daily driver you see every day someone claiming that Linux has only become easy to use X years ago, and almost 100% of the time that person started using Linux X+1 years ago.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hm, not sure about that tbh.

Fedora is a nice base but has the missing codec problem and their silly fedora flatpak remote. Ublue fixes that.

So

  1. Use the fedora installer and install Silverblue
  2. Rebase to ublue unsigned
  3. Rebase to ublue signed

Done. From them on just go to the GUI store and install apps.

Not everything there is well integrated like toolbox, so you will need the terminal for now.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No an example of how recent developments made it easy

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but Ubuntu has had non-free codecs and drivers in their repos for decades, that's not new, Fedora just recently found a way to stop shooting themselves in the foot.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Huh? Rpmfusion is pretty old and ublue is not official fedora. Even though it should be.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

So? I still don't get what any of this has to do with Linux being easy for a long while.