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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Not everyone here is a developer.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And some developers are bad at design/css (like me).

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fair, but I would argue that the basics of CSS positioning aren’t too complex.

And at this point we’re just talking about moving that NAV element to the top of the page, not the left side.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 3 points 8 months ago

I believe this addresses your concern:

https://lemmy.ml/comment/9231303

[–] otl@hachyderm.io 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Dev publishes unreadable website:

"Some developers are bad at CSS and design/CSS (like me)"

Implying some innate incapacity.
Same dev:

"Or these people could learn Rust and contribute to the existing project."
https://lemmy.ml/comment/8855579

Man I just don't get it. There's a kind of wilful ignorance here or something? It's jarring. All due respect for what's been made but this attitude... I'm not offended or have disdain, just dumbfounded at the messaging.

@Ghostalmedia
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[–] pop@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

but this attitude

Opensource is not some public service you just request something and the developers create it for you. If anything attitude like yours are what's burning out opensource developers.

It's their time, work and effort and I am glad they're upfront about it rather than pacify everyone's request beyond what they already do.

[–] otl@hachyderm.io 3 points 8 months ago

This is not about software licensing nor the spirit of FOSS.

There's some inconsistent messaging that's genuinely confusing me. I've shared an anecdote below (from a time when I was developing open source software) in the interest of generating discussion to clear it up for me and perhaps others, too. I don't mean to imply I know what is happening right here.

@pop @fediverse

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I kind of feel like I’m walking into a construction site where someone didn’t some amazingly complex joinery, and I trip over the cuttings on the shop floor.

Then I say “you might want to clear a path here,” and I’m told by the woodworker that they never learned to use a dustpan, but it’s over there. “Go sweep for me.”

[–] otl@hachyderm.io 0 points 8 months ago

Ha nice analogy. Might steal it if that's ok! :)

Reminds me of a place I used to work at. Small place; 10 people. I started as a sysadmin but later started programming. They encouraged me; "yes we suck at this we need help!" so I kept going. But as the work became more involved and I needed a bit of co-operation from their side, it was torture. They didn't "suck" at it, they just didn't respect or bother themselves with that kind of work.

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