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[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'd like to point out this is a hot take.

Enterprise infrastructure has been moving to containers for years because of scale and redundancy. Spinning up new VMs for every app failover is bloat and wasteful if it is able to be put in a container.

To really use them well, like everything in IT, understanding the underlying tech can be essential.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yes, that’s a valid use case. But the enterprise is also moving to containers because the big tech companies are pushing them into it. What people forget is that containerization also makes splitting hardware and billing customers very easy for cloud providers, something that was a real pain before. Why do you think that google, Microsoft and Amazon never got into the infrastructure business before?

[–] falcon15500@lemmy.nine-hells.net 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think that google, Microsoft and Amazon never got into the infrastructure business before?

Amazon was in the infrastructure business well before containers were the "big thing".

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

You're missing the point.

[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

What are you even claiming? Billing is the same ease VM or container.

Cgroups became a thing in 2004 and then Google and Amazon started container offerings in 2008.

And you don't even need docker there are plenty of alternative engines.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

What are you even claiming? Billing is the same ease VM or container.

Before containers, when hosting was mostly shared stuff (very hard to bill and very expensive when it comes to support) or VMs that people wouldn't buy because they were expensive.