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[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Mercedes also better support UBI so that these workers who will lose their jobs to automation don't starve to death.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

While I still support UBI, last time robots replaced people doing repetitive tasks, people did find other jobs. Actually there was much bigger unemployment in Britain where the auto industry crumbled since they couldn't compete with the rest of the world using robots.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago (2 children)

People work their bodies into breaking in these kinds of jobs, which I just find ethically wrong. I get that there are risks with every job, but basically being guaranteed to get injuries from repetitive motions etc. is a big ask. I support robots taking over such tasks.

I also don't think it's a hot take that Mercedes (and fucking everyone) should support UBI. Everyone has a right to live, and if we must have this capitalistic society, then everyone should have some means of access to it. No one chooses to be born, but once they are we as a society have a responsibility to ensure that they can live their lives with dignity.

If companies want to partake in society, they better contribute to it as well.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

and from the other side, people having UBI also means that they'd have more money to spend on things like cars that Mercedes might want to make and sell, since they can put the money left over to other things.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Why won't anyone think of the poor shareholders!!!

[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This guy just drawed out socialism and it sounds amazing. Still, people are afraid of it even though the most well off countries in the world are socialistic countries (northern Europe)

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As someone from Northern Europe -Sweden specifically - we're not socialist. We're a constitutional monarchy, with a parliamentary system, and we're very much a capitalist society. We have a decent amount of social safety nets (which are being eroded by the right-wing powers that be as we speak), and strong labour laws (dito).

[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I believe we in Norway and Denmark identify ourselves much more as socialists than Sweden.

[–] laxe@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Governments should push UBI, not corporations like Mercedes

[–] Comet_Tracer@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Unless they are forced to care about their workers, they won't. There is no profitablity to caring about what they see as expenses.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Generally the idea is those workers will find other work and the production capacity will increase.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

and for people to be able to actually buy their garbage too.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

They make realls nice cars to their credit

[–] itsnotits@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

also had* better support