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The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear and usually follow it up with a ban. It's absolutely clear what is happening and it shouldn't be allowed to continue.

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[–] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You've got things backwards: OP was banned first and then posted this drama in reaction. The post isn’t visible on lemmy.ml because OP is banned.

[–] Mastengwe@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was banned from ml for merely suggesting that responding to someone with memes is childish and immature. So OP being banned from ml isn’t really the crime you might think it is.

Backwards or not- it doesn’t make what they said wrong.

[–] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what account of yours that was, so I guess I'll have to take your word for it, because it wasn't the account you're currently using.

[–] Mastengwe@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, it wasn’t. And I’ve much better things to do than to make up stories about a backwoods community on a mid-tier social network.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the evidence suggests otherwise

[–] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

AFAICT this person is just making up random garbage up all over this thread. They have the means necessary to prove all of their claims if they're true, but so far have provided nothing.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

and to what end? what is the purpose here? spreading spurious and undisprovable accusations is pointless when people can undermine them just by pointing out the nature of the accusation.

[–] ExtremeSoup@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't know about that. I do see in their modlog that he has been banned multiple times. Allthough i cant find the exact time and date of his newest ban, it corresponds with the creation of this post, aka. 1 day ago from making this comment. But yeah, there is a possebility that he was banned right before or something like that 🤔

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Checking the modlog, it looks like a moderator gave me a site ban for 14 days and a ban from the community where I made my comment for 30 days. I find it interesting that it lists my site ban as being from a moderator and not an admin.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

~~They manipulated the modlog on their version to show all actions as coming from mod and not from admin, likely in attempt to hide how much is by admins as opposed to mods.~~

~~Edit: also appears they're manipulating the data itself because actions from lemmy.world's mods and admins are showing up under Nutomic's page so definitely something screwy going on there.~~

ModId field isn't enabled on these instances, it needs to be specifically enabled for these searches to work properly, thanks @Rooki@lemmy.world

[–] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Filtering by “ModId” must also be a config option: lemmy.world’s modlog page has a “Filter by mod” drop-box, but lemmy.ml’s and lemmy.sdf.org’s don’t.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I see, it would be nice to ask someone who knows for sure.

@Rooki@lemmy.world is this the case? Is the ModId field a custom config that needs to be enabled and/or is it a feature added specifically to Lemmy.world (If you don't know would you mind asking someone who might know and getting back to me then?)? If that is the case I'll edit my responses with this new information.

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I will check the config and let you know. I dont think we have something custom. I think we have a config enabled

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

They have the option "Hide Mod Names" active. and LW not

[–] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Have you seen any other lemmy instance besides lemmy.world who has this field? I haven't (I checked feddit.uk, feddit.nl, feddit.de, lemm.ee, lemmy.sdf.org, lemmy.ca, lemmy.blahaj.zone). Are they all up to some shady stuff and lemmy.world is the only instance with an honest modlog?

Also i would like to know your thoughts on "Sunaurus' page", you somehow must have missed when i first asked you about it. Is he also manipulating the modlog data itself? What about "Ada's page"? I am sure i would find the same for admins of the other instances, but i feel like it would be on you to show something that supports your claims.

[–] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I checked the 12 most popular instances, and only lemmy.world and lemmynsfw.com seem to have ModId enabled, so perhaps the default config setting is to disable it. This is assuming that it’s a config thing at all, but the only other possibility would be that those two sites share forked code.

cc: @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world

[–] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah. Now i learned more about it than i wanted to. Somehow i still feel dumber after trying to talk to @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world and the troll entourage.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Rooki said that there's an option called "Hide Mod Names", it's likely a default value in the standard Lemmy package, likely the reason why it isn't on more instances. I'll ask the other instance admins I know about it later.

[–] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

I see. It look like it was added a year and a half ago: Add Modlog Filters #2313