Do you realize how many talented artists are out there that never see the light of day of success just because they do not have the capital, connections, or luck to break through? I don't think most people are saying she doesn't have any talent at all. What people are saying is she owes her initial success to the money and connections her dad has. And it's not even the common stroke of luck that other successful artists get. She was even way ahead. And having that initial success can make or break an artist's career. Talent can then carry you moving forward.

Nobody is saying she's a hack who was only successful because of daddy's money. They're saying she got a very good headstart and hit the ground running. It's primarily directed at people who claim she got there on talent alone. It's like saying Bezos or Musk built their empire from scratch, while forgetting they had the benefit of having huge initial capital from their parents.

Btw, getting to #19 on mainstream charts is not trivial.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That’s true of literally everything though.

Absolutely nobody is 100% self-made. There is always some level of luck…whether it’s being born to the right family or being in the right places at the right times (and only then even having the option of making the right decisions), and whether your a billionaire or upper-middle class.

The problem is, most people in UMC and higher completely forget about any element of luck that come with their success. Some might attribute a small amount to it, and some may be fully aware of it, but most shrug it off and attribute all of their successes to their own actions and abilities.

Even artists who put in a shit ton of blood sweat and tears and came from humble beginnings. Look at Beyonce. Working class parents saved up and put her in Montessori school, and her career started when her dance instructor happened to catch her humming the end of a tune with perfect pitch.

Gotta be thousands of highly talented girls from working class families that enroll in a private school (most lower-grade private day school families I’d known are solid middle-class). But only one became Beyoncé.