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I used to think that there would be 1, main 'Fediverse' with all of the 'big instances' connected to each other. The recent Threads debacle has shown me otherwise.

The point of the Fediverse is that there is no one single entity, or group of entities, dominating it all.

Right now it feels like whatever the big instances do, we kind of have to go along with to be a part of anything. As the Fediverse grows, there will be more options to suit different types of users.

I think it's fine if big instances federate with Threads and it's fine if they don't. People can just join instances that align with what they want. It's not like defederating means being cut out of the Fediverse, that's not possible.

Great design. I'm eager to see how it plays out.

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm in a wait and see with my instance. People act like it's one and done. When they start they'll be just another server to me. If they start becoming hostile and everything coming from them it's terrible then I'll defederate. Same as any other server.

People are worried about data being misused but, I'm sorry, that's what happens when we publish to an open protocol. Anyone can use it however they want, and yeah, they're are scum usage for it

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Agreed. I think Lemmy is more public than Mastodon and co. which do have some privacy settings for posts and account follows, but ActivityPub is inherently a public protocol. Appreciate everything you've done for Poptalk btw!

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In some ways, I trust my data more with a highly scrutinized company such as Meta than a random weirdo spinning up his instance with a home server in his cabinet.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's what I don't understand about the pushback. Yes we all want privacy, but Lemmy here and the fediverse is not built around the idea of privacy. It's literally a protocol that shoots out whatever you type to anyone who wants to listen. You can type on any server and it's going to end up on any other server. Can't be mad because someone like Meta is seeing that and going "Hm, we have servers, we could listen to that data."

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

neither of you are looking at all the data harvesting that occurs on platforms like Meta and Reddit. Telemetry, keystrokes (not just submitted, but any key typed iincluding backspaced ones), and more, and NONE of that is harvested on this platform.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 points 11 months ago

That's why I'm not switching or anything, my user will be on my instance, but if they federate and users true the surveillance instance that's on them