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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I've heard about the ballot claims but I'd not heard that the crowd were supposed to interrupt the chain of custody. Were certain individuals given that task? The Wikipedia link only talks about the crowd chanting "hang Mike Pence".

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think they were trying to hang Mike Pence? To stop him from certifying the election results so that Trump could steal it.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. They wanted Pence to back Trump.

But chanting that doesn't imply that some (or any) of the Capitol stormers were an integral part of any plan.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What a coincidence that all was then

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Again, what pivotal role were the mob supposed to play?

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The role of the mob was to disrupt the joint session of congress and VP from certifying the election results that would make Joe Biden president.

[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There's a bunch of investigations and court cases going on still, but what we do know is that there's hard evidence that Trump wanted to accomplish the goal of staying in office, and was already asking people to use illegal conduct to achieve that goal... Which was high treason.

He was asking for elector's to produce counts that give him more votes, he was asking Pence to go against his constitutional duties.

Some participants involved in J6 did appear to be trying to breach baracaded and protected areas (many of those participants had professional training as police, and military personnel others were from militias). A security guard (who turns out was a Capitol Hill Police Officer, named Eugene Goodman) was protecting an area of the senate where the ballot custody chain was, and did misdirect protestors away from areas the custody chain travels through.

To my mind that sounds like there was motive, an expressed goal, ongoing attempts, and people with the right training who were at the right place and time.

Are there any confessions? Not to my knowledge. Have their been convictions of interrupting congressional business, and was that business the certification of vote counts that decide who the President of the United States of America is?

Yes. Absolutely.

Will there be more convictions on the matter? I think we're all waiting to see. There may be a push to leave some until the next President is in office, as to not further upset the processes and stability of American democracy.