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cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/10937445

Putin orders development of homegrown Steam Deck-like gaming machines — 100% self-sufficiency goal apparently applies to gaming, too

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[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"home grown" aka mostly Chinese parts

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That Russia has no capability to produce something like this and isn't China also behind chip wise?

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I meant what's the difference with our game systems? They're mostly all Chinese parts too

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

I thought most of the major silcon like CPU and GPU chips were from Taiwan, with it being more simpler commodity and board manufacturing being done in the PRC.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

China doesn't have the capacity to make high performance computer chips.

[–] Zeroxxx@lemmy.id -1 points 7 months ago

Deck is like 6nm. China can make 7nm. It is not like Deck is a powerhouse anyway.

[–] Anarch157a@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Taiwan, not PRC. Mainland China isn't capable of making CPUs and GPUs whith the performance and low power draw needed for a portable console in the volumes necessary. They brute-forced their way into a 7nm process, but it's expensive and low yields, so they're using it only for crypto mining ASICs and Huawei phones.

To make a console like the Steam Deck, they would need an AMD64 chip on 5nm. Granted, Zhaoxin does have a licence for X86 architecture (inherited from Via, who got it when they bought Cirix), but they're still far from being able to make those in 7 or 5nm.

Meanwhile, TSMC in Taiwain is already shipping 3nm chips for Apple and soon for AMD too.

Unless China figures out Extreme UV, like in the ASML machines, or direct stamping, like in recently announced Canon machines, they won't be competitive with Intel, TSMC or Samsung anytime soon.

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Built in malware that phones home to the Kremlin, most likely.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So is iOS by that definition