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>fantasy setting has magic and flying creatures
>still using horses as main transportation

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>setting has nuclear energy
>still using coal as main energy source

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Setting has electric cars

Car enthusiasts of the setting are fanatical about petrol cars instead

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They are now because you can still get petrol reasonably cheaply. When the price rises because everyone else has gone over to electric I think they'll be less interested. Part of the problem is that there's a whole generation of people who've grown up with loud noise equals cool car.

Pretty soon though there'll be a whole generation for whom the vast majority of cars were electric their whole lives and I suspect they'll be less interested in petrol cars. It'll become a much more niche hobby.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Even for luxury cars that run on petrol, there's been a need to mimic old engine sounds so that the owners don't feel like their cars are underpowered.

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 4 points 8 months ago

Cars like the BMW i8 which muffle the 3 cylinder engine down as quietly as possible and pump ‘cool’ engine sounds both into the cabin and outside.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I bought my 30 year old car 15 years ago for $2000 and it still runs well and hasn't needed too much in the way of repair. Find me an electric that can do the same and I'll make the jump in a second.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Find a 1994 EV in good nick? I can find you 2024 internal combustion cars that won't last 15 years; I can find you a 2024 EV whose manufacturer says will last a million miles (or maybe that's the 2025 version), that's 33.3 thousand miles a year for 30 years. But that manufacturer lies.

Did your car claim a greater than 30 year low maintenance life when new? Is its lifespan typical of the model?

Can we take your position as "has an outlier lifespan car, doesn't want to replace it"? My last car I sold was 20 years old and had seats with worn out cloth (and exposed padding) and broken plastic trim around its adjustment controls

Nissan leaf battery replacements were a minor repair when the first of those needed them. They got much better than new batteries for pretty cheap

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A quick look at the used market shows me a shit ton of nissan leafs going for $1500 to $3000. I wouldn't be able to go to the next town over with one, because it would die on my return trip. 10s of miles of range on a full charge according to the listings.

Granted, ANY half-decent car in the used market goes for a lot more than what I could get when I bought mine, but the bashing over the head that some people do about "go electric, or you're the problem" isn't feasible for most people.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean you are part of the problem. Objectively. It's not entirely your fault as your country should have better public transport so you don't need a car for everyday use. The prices of EVs are possibly too high as well. Don't pretend though that driving an old car isn't harming the planet. If you really want something old get a diesel car and run it from bio diesel or vegetable oil. Might even save you money that way if you are lucky.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I doubt my old car rotting in a junk yard is much better than the little bit of driving I do, never mind the bullshit of pinning the death of the planet on me when private jet owners create vastly more emissions that I do. I can save a lot more money NOT replacing my perfect functional car with a gamble on the shit heaps in my local area. I may be "part of the problem," but I'm a very small droplet in the ocean.

[–] Fr0G@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think those other guys have it all wrong. You shouldn't feel pressured to ditch a reliable machine for something that is still being tested. You may want to consider encouraging younger people to invest in those things because commercially valued electric vehicles are really only just hitting their stride. 15 years from now is when people will say "I bought my electric car for 30,000 usd, that's right, not credits!"

There are much bigger threats to the environment than people driving cars right now, that are simple to solve (but not easy). However, be careful about singing thr praises of the old because others become too wary of the new.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

> Setting has public transport

> Setting is still full of carbrained petrolheads

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

just once, I want to see a Mad Max movie where everyone gets on a train. Oh wait, they did that kinda with Snowpiercer