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No way! Little dictators exercising the power they have. But it is their platform, they can do what they want right?
This is probably the biggest threat to the fediverse.
Threads is the biggest threat to the Fediverse.
Lets ruin it so they can't!
Defederating from Meta won’t ruin it, it’ll protect it.
Bullying instance admins into aligning with your values is absolutely the type of behavior that will ruin this protocol.
Meta is evil and Threads is lame. And I can block them on my own, thank you.
"Not linking to you on my personal website is bullying"
Give it a fucking break precious.
Co-ordinated action is needed to fight back against billion dollar companies, not leaving it up to individuals.
Cringey as fuck.
Do you also urge your e-mail provider to block e-mails from Meta for all users?
That'd be nice.
I would urge the email protocol makers to stop the rampant corporate tracking. Basically every email sender gets your location, ip, and other info when you open it.
I’d bet facebook has a team of marketers working tirelessly to grow their fedi market share so that less informed people think of the fediverse as just a part of threads. They started their own free ISP and half the people that used it ended up thinking Facebook dot com was all there is to the internet. They’ve decided to ruin the fediverse next because by federating, they can see a ton of info about you/your account by default.
I think the FTC should do its fucking job, but until then people should stop these huge companies from getting exactly what they want as much as possible. I see no benefit, but a major threat from a company that spies and creates hordes of ill informed users. Literally they are in the news right now for man in the middling Snapchat data. You think they won’t/haven’t started that kind of thing for fedi? They can’t train their LLMs off Snapchat half as easy as they can here.
They are not threatening the fediverst though are they? Just refusing to promote certain instances for newcomers. When I signed up, i wasn't really sure what I was signing up to but i did assume that not all instances were listed on that page that talked about them
Little dictators that have too much prominence and visibility are the threats. If a specific start point gets too prominent a lot of users could be redirected from good instances because of the little tyrants that run such a jump on point. Granted it can be easily routes around by offering alternative entry points, but a certain amount of prominence will impact not so Tech savvy users.
And in your assumption you have shown you already understand the fediverse more than a lot of people ever will. They will just join an instance and browse /ALL.
Create your own instance and become your own little benevolent dictator.
The above is the core strength of the fediverse. Tinpot despots may have an advantage in the network due to previous efforts, but they can be routed around any time they go nuts.
This is a huge, huge win over the top down shitbergs that is current corporate social media.
I think this is true, but the fediverse (as an entity) needs to prevent too much power accumulating at one point.
It ebbs and flows. Full decentralization would be ideal, but unrealistic. Power always consolidates, until it suddenly doesnt. Making it easy to leave when it "suddenly doesnt" is key.
I am not in favor of transitive property defederation either but Meta will make similar demands if they are allowed to be an influencer in the fedi as well. I’d rather that everyone just decides to defederate threads independently