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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Also, this'll blow your mind too, Doom wasn't actually 3D. It was a clever trick involving the lack of the ability to look up and down. They used some sort of algorithm (I forget how it works exactly) to turn the 2D walls, doors, and platforms that appear from the top-down view in the map into vertical stacks of lines that "look" like 3D objects in front of you. The sprites are also all just 2D projections overlayed onto the game.

This system introduced all kinds of wierd quirks in the game, like the trippy effect you get when you activate no-clipping and clip through the edge of the map.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Most notably perspective only gets calculated on the horizontal axis, vertically there is no perspective projection. Playing the OG graphics with mouse gets trippy fast because of that. Doom doesn't use much verticality to hide it. Duke Nukem level design uses it more and it's noticeable but still tolerable. Modern level design with that kind of funk, forget it.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I learned recently that the Jedi Engine for the original Dark Forces had an additional trick. You could have a hallway over another hallway--which Doom cannot--but you can't see both hallways at the same time. So there might be a bridge over a gorge, but the level design forces it so it's a covered bridge, and you wouldn't have an angle where you could see inside the bridge and down into the gorge.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Duke Nukem can do that, too, both it and Dark Forces use portal engines while Doom is a BSP engine. With a portal engine you're not bound to a single global coordinate system, you can make things pass through each other.

Not actually a feature of the renderer you can do the same using modern rendering tech, though I can't off the top of my head think of a game that uses it. Certainly none of the big game engines support it out of the box. You can still do it by changing levels and it wouldn't be hard to do something half-way convincing in the Source engine (Half-Life, Portal, etc, the Valve thing), quick level loading by mere movement is one of its core features, but it isn't quite as seamless as a true portal engine would be.

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