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[–] radiant_bloom@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My $400 watch also tells the weather and has my calendar ! That’s an actual upgrade. A Rolex Logo is not.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

In 10 years that Rolex will hold its value, and may even appreciate in value as they often do.

Even a $40 Casio will still be working good as new in 10 years with less than $5 in parts & labor.

Your $400 smart watch will be literal garbage because its battery is nonreplaceable.

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

Functionality > resale value

Who cares what it's worth in 10 years if I get my money's worth out of it

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is super dependent on the watch itself, watch batteries aren’t inherently unreplaceable.

If your problem is e-waste, disposable vapes are by far a larger contributor than a single watch that someone will use for years before buying a new one.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

My problem isn't with either. I am just stating that your average Smart Watch isn't going to be worth anything in 10 years. There is the battery itself, then the fact that software at best is supported for 3 maybe 4 years, hardware support may or may not exist.

They are inherently disposable while a Rolex, and most watches actually are capable, if not intended, to be heritage pieces capable of surviving decades.

It's not Apples to Apples.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago

If you are buying expensive jewelry to hold value that’s fine, but that’s not what everyone is doing or wants. If you don’t care about e-waste then frankly I’m not sure why you care what other people spend their money on.

[–] radiant_bloom@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Last time I checked replacing the battery cost $60

Also, I can buy new smart watches every time the battery gets used up, or updates stop coming ; and at the end of my life I won’t even be halfway to a Rolex’s price tag.

The Casio though, that is a good deal.

[–] Knasen@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

But the one with the Rolex logo will most likely retain it's value over multiple years and might even increase.

Yours will probably be out of software updates and incompatible within a couple of years.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Value is a false system - just because you 'value' something doesn't mean it is actually logically worth anywhere near that amount. Plus, ones personal decision of 'value' doesn't mean shit if 1) they aren't selling it and 2) others don't share the 'value'. I can go to Walmart, stand in the doorway, and tell people that they owe me money for being in my presence. But if they don't also share the sentiment, I'm not going to make any money.

[–] Knasen@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have you looked at the second hand market of used Rolex Watches vs First Generations of Smart Watches?

I'm not trying to put anyone down jut fact remains,you can flip the Rolex you buy on the second hand market and get money back after 10+ years.ä without any problems.

[–] Mobilityfuture@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Rolexes are for people who understand total cost of operation

[–] original_reader@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The 400$ one will also contribute to e-waste.

Just saying.

[–] radiant_bloom@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

That is a real problem.

I hope we can find a solution for that, but as of now living without producing e-waste is literally impossible, so I don’t really bother my mind with the exact quantity.

If I keep buying smart watches at this rate, in 30 years I will have produced around a single smartphone’s worth of e-waste from them, and that’s if literally none of it gets recycled.

( My phone (iPhone 13 mini) is approximately 6x the size of my watch (Watch series 4) ; and I’ve had that one for 6 years. I’m only replacing it if it doesn’t get the next watchOS, which I won’t know until WWDC, so I made a pessimistic guess that it won’t for the calculation. )

[–] radiant_bloom@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But even if I replace my watch every time it stops getting updates, I can do that for multiple lifetimes before it costs me anywhere close to what a Rolex would have 😅

[–] Knasen@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Depends on how long you live/often you buy a new one and what you pay for your watches now doesn't it? 😉