People going on about how much electric cars suck are usually shocked when I agree with them... And moreso when I point out that they suck because they're still cars, and that's not a conversation the anti-EV crowd is ready to have.

Also, goes into the old "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" mantra which it seems nobody understands is ordered that way intentionally as that's the order they should be implemented. Reducing usage is by far the most effective tactic for positive environmental impact or environmental harm reduction.

They just get to "recycle" and see that they can change pretty much nothing more than putting trash in a different bin and figure that's all they need to do. Even though it's a really poor overall impact.