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I seem to recall a could of incidents of cops leaving guns in school restrooms.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/students-find-cops-gun-gun-bathroom-middle-school/story?id=69465097
https://www.wfxrtv.com/roanoke-county/officer-issued-firearm-left-unattended-in-restroom-during-hidden-valley-basketball-game/
https://pix11.com/news/local-news/long-island/gun-left-in-high-school-bathroom-by-off-duty-cop-on-long-island-scpd/
But you seem to want to extrapolate more from my short comment.
I'm not anti gun at all. Might even have a few. However, having attended a rural public school I know many of my former teachers are a lot like my neighbors. Dumb, irresponsible bullies. Not all of them, but it's not an uncommon deal.
In the end, it's not that I think most people are dumb, just that people are people and we are our own weakest link. We're the least reliable part of a system.
And yeah, we often implement things in the most pants shittingly stupid way possible. Especially when it's something born or of a culture built and nurtured as a political tool.
Really, FFS, have some respect for what you're arguing against.
They fucking WHAT. Jesus Christ, we need robo cops, except that's it's own problem and we aren't there yet. How can we address armed people who suck without armed people who don't suck? I recall that cops generally get very miniscule training, so maybe we can start there. Training and weeding out stupid people would likely help.
Appreciate the cooler response, despite that we started by snipping at each other.
I can't say I have the answers, but I figure it's a start, along with greater oversight and accountability. Doing better with general education helps build more people with common sense. Better mental healthcare. Better emotional education. Gun laws that are actually common sense about restrictions without being sweeping and mindless. A more common sense gun culture.
Injecting more guns just feels like a simple answer to a complex question that doesn't hold up to scrutiny. That just creates more unpredictable factors, which isn't something you ever want when you're trying to secure a situation.
We're so culturally and infrastructurally damaged that we can barely implement any solutions. I don't know what fixes that.
Ahhh yeah. I'm trying to be right, not force an angle. If I catch a new consideration that changes things, I gotta accept it. I'm a scientist.
I don't want to arbitrarily inject guns. I've just determined that opposing them without your own is futile. I'm the brains vs brawn situation, it's smart to be strong.
The whole name of the game is making sure your own guns aren't causing extra harm. Gotta work backwards from there to figure out how to stop threats.
We could hypothetically have spaceship style chamber sealing tricks where we isolate a shooter and knock them out with some gas. It would be expensive to implement but gunless and relatively safe. Also difficult to exploit.