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[–] Ategon@programming.dev 97 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Calculation for MAU changed so the old MAU and the new MAU cant really compared

old one used to include commenters and posters while the new one has that and also voters
both are missing people who dont do any of these three actions though

[–] swab148@startrek.website 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It'd be hard to track lurkers on federated platforms though

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

For communities yes due to cross instance stats but for instances themselves (which the stats above is based on) no. You can just use post read times in addition to the three which will catch anyone who has read a post. Post reads are something each instance has access to for its users so it can do the unread comments feature but it doesn't federate (but each instance self reports stats on itself).

[–] swab148@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Neat, good to know that there's a mechanism, would there be a way for these statisticians to get this information? Or would it have to be self-reported?

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

Self reported, no public way to get post reads, its just in the db

[–] Electromechanical_Supergiant@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People who don't do any of those actions are not active users. Lurkers are not active by definition.

They shouldn't be included in the active user count, because they're not contributing any activity.

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It depends on what is being called activity

The standard (I say standard but its really just the thing most sites use since it boosts their numbers) that social media uses for monthly active users is to do people who have logged in. This is what mastodon uses as well

While they aren't actively contributing content they are still actively using the site (active account as opposed to dead account)

I think lemmy should match up to the mastodon and other social media calculations so these comparisons actually make sense otherwise were just making lemmy feel dead by calling a different calculation MAU than what people are used to and since both calculations are being compared like they're equal

[–] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah there was no rise in the number of servers, you might say that theoretically it means nothing but in practice i don't think i ever saw these two metrics not correlate.