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[–] filister@lemmy.world 124 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (16 children)

Back then I read an article about how M$ is crippling the ability of other office packets to read their docx and xslx formats which are supposed to be open formats, but in reality are written in a way never to be fully integrated by competing products. More information about their pseudo open standard: https://fsfe.org/activities/msooxml/msooxml.en.html

Munich in the past have used Linux PCs for quite some time until eventually switching back to windows. Back then they were citing the same incompatibilities to open and read and display M$ office files correctly. So Microsoft is definitely abusing their position as a market leader and trying to cripple competition as much as they can.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 57 points 7 months ago (3 children)

So fine them and require all governemtn documents and legal documents of anybkind to be in a true open format. Its only a compatibility problem if people continue to use their format.

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 24 points 7 months ago

In the past, some people have expressed dissatisfaction when I've sent them files in .odt format. However, it's the superior format in terms of support and functionality, so I always make them aware of that and of the fact that I will never use some shitty ms product....

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

That's unlikely to happen in every country where they're popular. Microsoft can just be like "oh you're gonna fine us? We'll pull out and you guys will be completely fucked. Have fun!"

They got into the enterprise sector so early that most offices wouldn't function without Microsoft products/support.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 28 points 7 months ago

They don't need to fine them in every country. Just in Germany. If they pull our of Germany, they need to pull out of the EU. They are not doing that. They will make their document open, for real.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 22 points 7 months ago

We'll pull out and you guys will be completely fucked. Have fun!"

Don't threaten me with a good time! /s :)

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If they retreated from the German market out of spite I could see the government voiding their rights and patents. Can't have rights to things you dont offer here. Then they'd end up with sanctioned piracy of their stuff. I dont think Microsoft would be that idiotic.

[–] sep@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Iso allowing itself to be coopted into fast tracking standarizing ooxml in 2008 continues to be horrible. Ms can point and say: see ooxml is a true open format.

[–] Bene7rddso@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The problem isn't even ooxml, it's that MS themselves don't always follow the standard

[–] sep@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

That too that there are 3 different .docx does nothing for standardization

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