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[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not just the bees, all bugs in North America have seen a 75% die off in the last 20 years.

Big shocker that songbirds, which eat those bugs, have also seen a massive die off.

Despite those deniers that still blame housecats, the true culprit is almost certainly pollution and pesticides.

[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Despite those deniers that still blame housecats

Both things can be true. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Also we have less pollution and pesticide use than we did in the 60s and 70s. Why is it just becoming a problem now?

[–] DrCatface@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

less pollution? that cannot possibly be true. according to dr google 1970s world population was 3.7b, now we're more than double that

[–] Redscare867@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I’m the US, the EPA was created in the 1970’s. We definitely have less pollution (of certain types) today than we did in the past. Some notable examples of how disgustingly polluted American skies and waterways were in the past:

The skies of Pittsburgh, PA

the Cuyahoga River fire

Coal Production has also been declining

And then of course less visible examples like the Montreal Protocol stopping corporations from depleting the ozone layer.

My point is in terms of greenhouse gas production we are much higher than in the 60’s and 70’s, but we have massively improved in a lot of areas. Of course there is still room to improve.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I bet that while we have less general pollution and less dumping trash in the environment kinda things, we have developed much more potent insecticides. And if those insecticides do not degrade within a few weeks they will accumulate in the earth and the water.

Edit: Wikipedia about one type of modern pesticides: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonicotinoid

[–] bentropy@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, pretty sure your lawn has almost nothing to do with insects vanishing. It's much more likely the insane amounts of highly potent pesticides we put directly into our food chain. Those pesticides obviously aren't classified as pollution so we aren't polluting, we're killing the environment on purpose.

Btw. The development and use of neonicotines corelate quiet nicely with the drop in the insects population.