this post was submitted on 13 Apr 2024
491 points (96.4% liked)

Technology

59589 readers
3332 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I grew up with a Tandy 1000 and was always getting yelled at for taking it apart along with just about every PC we owned after than too.

Benchmarks are indicative of real world performance for most part. If they were useless we wouldn't use them, kinda like userbenchmark.

The one benefit apple does have is owning its own ecosystem where they can modify the silicon/OS/Software to work with each other better.

Does not mean the M3 is the best there is and can't be touched, that is just misleading

8700G is gonna stomp the M3 using Maxton's software suite just as the M3 will stop the 8700G using Apples software suite.

Then also on-top if that the process node for manufacturing said silicon is different (3nm vs 4nm) that alone allows for a 20% (give or take some) performance difference just like every process node change in the past decade or so

I'll take the loss on the experience part as the only apple product I own is an Apple TV 4k, but there are many nuances you've obviously glossed over

Is the M3 a good piece of silicon? Yes Is it the best at EVERYTHING? Of course not Should apple give up because they are not the best? Fuck no

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Man, you’re kinda off the point. This is about how much UM is appropriate for a base model. I’m simply saying the architecture of an SoC utilizes UM as a storage liaison exclusively, since CPU and GPU are cores of the same chip. It simply does not mean the same thing as 8GB of RAM in standard architecture. As a pro app user, 16GB is enough. 8GB is plenty for grandma to check her Facebook and online banking.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There’s no SoC that performs anywhere near Apple Silicon.

Am I missing the point really? UM is not a new concept. Specifically look at the PS5/X:SX

https://www.pcgamer.com/this-amd-mini-pc-kit-is-likely-made-out-of-b0rked-ps5-chips/

Notice the soldered RAM and lack of video card? Kinda like what the M series does.

And when all is said and done, 8gb is not nearly enough and apple should be chastised for just like Nvidia when they first decided to make 5 different variations of the 1060 making sure 4 of those variations will become ewaste in a few short years and again with the 3050 6gb vs 3050 8gb

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They both have have independent CPU and GPU. UM is not used to pass from CPU to GPU on an SoC system, it’s exclusively a storage liaison. Therefore it’s used far less than in non SoC applications.

The CPU and GPU are one chip. Learn about Apple Silicon SoC rather than trying to find a comparison. You won’t find one anywhere yet.