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[–] gap_betweenus@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I would recommend to get some empathy, not bad in general.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

To me it’s not about empathy, it’s about doing what you want as long as your not harming anyone.

And I believe if I draw some picture of (let’s say you) and keep it to myself (or with those who consented to seeing said drawing), there is nothing wrong with that.

I doubt you would agree though.

Edit: for future readers, please note that responding to a logic argument with saying “what about empathy”, is actually the logical fallacy “appeal to emotion”.

Downvote away if you like.

[–] gap_betweenus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And I believe if I draw some picture of (let’s say you) and keep it to myself (or with those who consented to seeing said drawing), there is nothing wrong with that.

Sure. But that's not what happens with deepfake porn sites? They are public.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure. But that's not what happens with deepfake porn sites? They are public.

Wouldn’t a content warning take care of that? As long as every user visiting knows they are consenting to see “bad porn drawings”, it’s still the situation I originally described.

[–] gap_betweenus@lemmy.world -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure, what ever helps you masturbate. But again - you can also have empathy with people who it has an effect on, listen to why and how and masturbate to all the other porn out there. But you wont since you lack basic empathy or maybe the whole hurting people is what gets you off in the first place. Not judging.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But you wont since you lack basic empathy

Don’t know where I claimed this or implied this.

Idk how you could possibly know or judge that someone has or doesn’t have empathy for other human beings while discussing personal freedoms that don’t affect others.

I guess strawman is the only way to respond to simple logic of “if your actions don’t hurt anyone, it’s fine”

I’m good with ending this convo here, have a nice day.

[–] gap_betweenus@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not seeing how your actions are hurting others, despite them even telling you - is mostly related to lack of empathy. Not that complicated, just simple logic.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Again, creating said artwork would be the action which does not hurt anyone.

Your probably claiming others would use said artwork to hurt people.

That sucks and I don’t support that. But imo one person doing something wrong is on them, it doesn’t make the artwork creator who did nothing wrong guilty.

If I were to make a hammer and sell it, then someone else uses the hammer to kill someone, I wouldn’t be guilty.

[–] gap_betweenus@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dude, I thought you left?

Your probably claiming others would use said artwork to hurt people.

Again if you would have empathy you could just listen to people, what and how they are hurt by deepfakes and understand what the problem is. Since you don't have empathy, nothing I will tell you would make any sense for you.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dude, I thought you left?

Your right, the last few comments have been going in circles and I’m probably wasting my time. Will leave this bad faith argument now. Doubt you will ever know what an appeal emotional logical fallacy is.

[–] gap_betweenus@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago

Still here?

Doubt you will ever know what an appeal emotional logical fallacy is.

Again, we are talking about empathy and you clearly show that you don't get it. Which was my point to begin with. Sorry mate to be the one bringing you the news.