This comes up often enough that I do have the sources handy. And sure, if you have actual questions/points that aren't just flippant then we can discuss those.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I will do my best to add something and questions beyond the “china bad” narrative.

If I do come up with some stuff that you think is disingenuous, please call it out, maybe I’ll be able to rephrase certain things. I’ll reply up a bit in the chain after I look into everything!

(This may take like a day or 2 realistically)

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No rush, it's a big link dump to go through. Most people don't really bother, so I appreciate the fact that you're willing to actually examine the evidence that's available.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It is certainly a link dump lmao if I do change my mind on the dump alone, I won’t just quietly “ope, guess I’m wrong, delete everything” either hahahah but, I may add some strike through’s and edits as to why I don’t think something as I go. This is going to be my personal deep dive on this topic. If there’s anything I’m strongly “anti” it’s human atrocities. Lmao, high bar, right? But, I do like to light up any government I get to when it comes to that shit.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago

I would hope most people are against atrocities. The question is ultimately what the truth of any particular situation is, and what the motivations of the people are. Understanding that is not always easy, but a good rule of thumb is that nations tend to be less than truthful about their geopolitical rivals.