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[–] pl_woah@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Humans think real random isn't random 🙃

It's wild but they see patterns

[–] pup_atlas@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago

The problem isn’t that their random is biased or has rules, the is that it is entirely deterministic, to the point where it will play the same exact songs, in the same exact order for days. It’s as if shuffle just activates a hidden “shuffle” playlist that only updates once a week.

[–] rush@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, computers physically cannot be random, they rely on logic

[–] pl_woah@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

CSPRNGs are a thing...

As are radioactive sources

And there's mathematical tests for whether something is random enough

So no, computers really can do random xD

[–] rush@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

CSPRNG literally stands for "cryptographically secure pseudorandom number generator". All randomness in computers is pseudorandom. Not TRULY random

Radioactive sources for randomness aren't really just put into your average household PC or phone either for obvious reasons.

[–] pl_woah@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A CSPRNG is more than random enough for a playlist xD

Take it from someone who works in the field - computers do random well enough rotflol

[–] rush@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

That's not what I'm doubting here. I was raising awareness to the fact that a computer physically cannot be truly random. I know that pseudorandomness is enough as we cannot perceive a difference easily.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Randomness is lumpy as one mathematician put it.