Mozilla's websites are full of trackers too, and they are largely funded by Google. How can you protect privacy when your biggest customer gains money by tracking? Seems like a clear conflict of interest.

And it’s not a bit of telemetry data, it’s literally your entire computer config, number of tabs open, duration… they claim not to log IPs, but can you really trust them? The point is you’re constantly pinging with your IP to their servers for useless reasons. They literally sell your data by sharing it to their “business partners”.

They also send the url of all files you download to Google by default. Great. That’s privacy!

(The video also gives some good points)

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

yeah I can trust them with no ip logging because I live in eu and if that big of a company breaks their own rules it's going to get noted and addressed

and without the ip you just keep sending quite basic stuff anonymously. nobody is getting tracked by that. it's just pretty anoymous data which ingludes general stuff like tab count, information about your ROUGH location (ip based, not accurate), hardware, clicks, count of clicks, times page visited etc... so just basic stuff that has literally nothing to do with the actual user. the link to your telemetry ends at the moment they don't tell the actual stuff that identifies you like your ip. please if you disagree, what part of that data don't you want to be shared because it has something to do with your privacy? it's all anonymous.

firefox is an opensource software where literally anyone can view the source code and check themselves what is actually sent. you argument all you want with the "but can youn trust them?" but literally anyone esle except some guy on youtube didn't feel like complaining about firefox

it's an opensource software, running with the expenses of a big browser. the fact that you let firefox use your anonymous telemetry for royalties is the least you can do to support browser like that. it is literally your specs, location by city, amount of clicks, where the clicks were, when it happened, and possibly some other stuff that I can't remember. all which is sent without you ip or other indications? what about those is actualy sacred?

also the sharing with third party service is only current with the current search service so you can choose yourself where you want to give your data in search engines.

and the google ad sevice only gets your ad-id which doesn't get linked to you if you don't use other google services in which case this conversation is pointless.

sorry if I missed something I'm high as fuck

But I see no reason for fearmongering or untrust. they are literally OPEN FUCKING SOURCE!

edit: and of course they are doing a lot of businnes with googe it is literally the biggest and easiest advertiser and they need money from somewhere. doesn't meen they spy on YOU and track YOUR data as your own and sell it with your info slapped on it.

they have 1100 employees to pay for and a LOT of servers for almost 15 million users. think about the costs with the mind that they also have to take profit to grow and get more customers. they cant stay completely still with growth and profits if they want to get more users and servers space. it takes a lot more resources to get as any users as it took in the firefox glory days

[–] azalty@jlai.lu -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Everything they recently added is pure bullshit and useless stuff. Just watch the video I linked, it says everything you want to hear. With all the data shared to their partners, I guess it's relatively easy to fingerprint you, depending on how they do it. And cmon about the servers, I never go to their website, I only cost money because of the shit ton of data they retrieve. An update ping from time to time and an update twice a month can't possibly cost 5 million dollars.

They don't have anything to spend money on, the browser is pretty much full of features. The only thing to do is make it faster and check for security issues.

At least on Brave you can opt out of this bullshit

sorry if I missed something I’m high as fuck

Nice

firefox is an opensource software where literally anyone can view the source code and check themselves what is actually sent. you argument all you want with the “but can youn trust them?” but literally anyone esle except some guy on youtube didn’t feel like complaining about firefox

As if people actually did that. I bet serverside code isn't open source