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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago (29 children)

Chromebooks aren’t really a threat. People who can use chromebooks as a daily driver probably already are. Also, most of the hardware is absolute garbage.

Apple isn’t all luxury. The Mac mini as fast af and starts at $599.

Apple just doesn’t have a “shit” category, like many other manufacturers.

Sure, a lot of people will choose Linux, but that won’t be a majority.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 18 points 6 months ago (10 children)

As much as I don't want to give LTT credit, I think Linus has a point with Chromebooks. Google is playing the long game with them. Students almost exclusively use them these days, and anecdotally, most of them are getting chromebooks and the like for college now that they're getting to that age. That's at least been the case for almost every family member I've had that's started college in the last 5 years.

It's only going to continue as the average Chromebook legitimately is becoming more powerful, and Steam compatibility is improving. You're going to see a whole lot of people who see no need for a PC/mac.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Which is good in the short term and bad in the long term imo.

It's good because it gives Microsoft and Apple competition, so they'll be forced to adapt to these users who have found that they don't need the desktop app stuff. More services will move to the cloud (like Office), which means less vendor lockin for client devices.

In the longer term, it means more stuff is in the cloud, which means less individual control over their data. That means vendor lockin must shifts from client devices to services, but now you can't just use a compatibility layer like WINE if you want to switch. So we'll then play a cat and mouse game with regulations like the GDPR as companies innovate new ways to screw you over.

So yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about Chromebooks. I'm personally teaching my kids to use Linux (if they want to play games, they use my Linux machines), so hopefully there's enough people pushing against everything going to the cloud to maintain some amount of competition to keep them in check.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I think I generally agree with all that. One good side effect is I think this will be the push that gets Linux a bit more mainstream*. It's pretty easy to sideload Linux onto most Chromebooks, so I think a good chunk of kids that like tinkering with stuff are going to try it out, more so than the past. ChromeOS is a lot more restrictive than windows, so there's a bigger incentive to get around it.

  • emphasis on a bit. Frankly I don't think I see a world where Linux has a proper foothold in the mainstream unfortunately.

Yeah, same. But then again, if Linux really did a push to appeal to the mainstream, it would probably lose what I like most and it. That's basically what ChromeOS is (bundling popular, proprietary nonsense), and I'm not a fan.

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