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Spoiler: GNOME wins

Btw their GNOME Theme manager is here

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I feel like this video exposes the restrictions of both desktop environments compared to already completed solutions like KDE, XFCE, and Compiz which can all be configured to be 1:1 with Mac or 1:1 with Windows.

I can personally say going from windows to stock GNOME on both Ubuntu and Fedora was definitely not a nice experience at all.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You just said XFCE is more complete than GNOME?

And Compiz is just a single (outdated, Xorg based) Compositor, how whould that work?

Strong point haha, I am interested about arguments.

(Yes KDE has a ton more. But it has too much maybe. I like how COSMIC epoch just takes all the best of the others, learning from the stuff they do just now, but with a fresh codebase in Rust)

but yeah GNOME is very restricted in stupid ways, especially as for example an app entry modification setting is not a huge thing.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I meant in the sense of the UI lol.

Gnome and kde are both way ahead in that they offer a proper app library and integration with devices.

Xfce is just a bunch of apps stuck together that happen to be good enough on their own, but aren't really interconnected.

I mentioned compiz because iirc it was one of the first compositors to outshine all the fancy window effects and behavior of Mac and Windows and still be configurable for both. Things like app switchers, snap windows, workspaces, etc. It just feels more intuitive to use than stock gnome.

I currently use an unholy combination of xfce with compiz, but once xfce upgrades to Wayland, I'll probably get Wayfire to replace compiz.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago

I didnt know Windowses Window manager (DWM? Explorer?) had any fancy effects. It is boring as hell but also stable as hell.

yeah I dont know what the best minimal Wayland compositor is.

I am using KDE Plasma since I first tried it, but have separate drives with GNOME, COSMIC-Epoch, Cinnamon etc.

Also want to try LXQt (but it seems many of "their apps" like yarock or qpdfview are not packaged anymore?) and looking for the best Compositor here.

  • cosmic-comp: honestly I think soon the best. But pre-alpha, no selinux profile yet, and pulls in complete cosmic (packaging issue)
  • kwin: best currently, tons of needed features, but pulls in half of KDE and random other stuff
  • wayfire: probably nice? Pulls in also a lot of GTK stuff
  • labwc: no idea, probably the best minimal one, but as I never heard anything I suppose less good?
  • something louvre? No idea
  • mutter: likely just good for GNOME? Could be a good option, if they dont intentionally make stuff only work with GNOME
  • something that XFCE, Cinnamon, Budgie will produce

And that left out sway, niri, hyprland, river and other tiling WMs.