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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (10 children)

I'm pretty sure you can do all of those things, including selling children into slavery in fallout 4 and new Vegas

[–] JayEchoRay@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Bethesda's version is toned down

  • Cannot kill children in Bethesda games (without modding)
  • Fallout 2 dealt with some realities of porn, learnt about terms like being a fluffer if are not fit for porn and if you had the skills it provided a pretty salicious perk image and a stage name among a couple of other changes. Sex referencing was used quite a lot in game - sometimes disturbingly so at times.
  • Gravedigging fair enough, there is a perk one gets in fallout 2 that hits you with karma penalty when you do it but otherwise point taken
  • Joining the slavers in Fallout 2, you get branded with a facial brand telling the waste "Look at me, I am a Slaver" which had the effect to lock a character out of quests and be automatically branded an enemy of the NCR - which is a choice that can be made in the second town.
[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I don't see the need to murder kids even in games so I never even tried killing a kid in fallout. The porn thing just sounds like a specific quest, and fallout 3 and 4 had equally adult quests I think. Anyways, I think people view fallout 1 and 2 with rose tinted glasses, I tried playing them after I became a fan of 3 and nv. And it was a slog playing the old ones, I didn't get far.

[–] JayEchoRay@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Fair enough, Fallout 2 at least did deal with a lot of dark themes that I don't see Bethesda retreading.

In regards to the kids thing, there were ways around it, it was more an annoyance having to buy back stuff that got stolen if one didn't take those precautions and on an evil playthrough could cut the pretense and do it without much consequence besides the perk reputation as the place was a craphole anyway.

The older fallouts needed one to get into the setting to start the ball rolling, it is not a pretty game and would not be above throwing the playable character in difficult situation if they didn't prepare for it but it had a way with its writing that helped one to roleplay once one got to a point where one got established which is an older game paradigm that isn't popular nowadays - building a reputation, and once you have one can start to interact with the world proper.

New Vegas scratches that itch, but isn't completely the same

I suppose it is like playing a interactive book and then falling in love with the writing and systems that represented uncomfortable realities in an interesting way.

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