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China unveils video of its moon base plans, which weirdly includes a NASA space shuttle (www.space.com)

submitted 7 months ago by AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world

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The China National Space Administration (CNSA) has released a video of its concept for a lunar base to be developed across the next couple of decades.

CNSA unveiled the video on Wednesday (April 24) as part of the country's annual space day celebrations. The project is known as the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS) and was jointly announced in 2021 by China and Russia.

China is now leading the moon base initiative and attempting to attract international partners for the endeavor. So far, alongside China, Russia, Venezuela, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Belarus, South Africa, Egypt, Thailand and Nicaragua have joined the initiative, according to Space News.

One curious detail of the video is the presence of a retired NASA Space Shuttle appearing to lift off from a launch pad in the background.

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[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (24 children)

hard to invent your own stuff when you have no social mobility or intellectual property and torture individualism.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (15 children)

China has been a centralized autocratic state for a couple thousands years and has invented almost everything in that time.

More seriously though, it's just not true to suggest that collectivist societies or autocratic states can't invent new things. The briefest glance at history shows it's just not true.

New things come from people having the time and resources to sit around and think about how to improve on the things we have. IP, social mobility and individualism just don't really come into it.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (7 children)

to be fair yes they invented paper, paper money, umbrellas, wheelbarrows, gunpowder, etc.

chinese govt claims to have invented high-speed rail, e-commerce, mobile payments and bike sharing, but those are all untrue.

but overall, given a billion people, i rarely see them invent game changers. maybe the artificial synthesis of starch will be a big one. or solid state EV batteries.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I wouldn't be looking for 'game changers' - that's a marketing phrase with no firm meaning and very low applicability to reality. All invention is just iterating on existing ideas.

We didn't see much cutting-edge tech coming out of China while they were recovering from the collapse of the imperial system and the colonial period, but now that they have more resources to throw at new tech, we'll see new tech.

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