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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Does anyone here own capital? As in being haut bourgeoisie? Probably not.

If you support capitalism and you're not a capitalist you're just a bootlicker.

[–] huge_clock@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You wouldn’t be any better off on a socialist system. The people at the top of the party would control everything and the working class would be even poorer than they are now. You’re just licking the left boot instead of the right one.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is empirically untrue, but also just nonsense. Politicians do not have the same class relationship as capitalists with the proletariat.

[–] huge_clock@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh I’m sorry i didn’t realize there was empirical evidence for socialism. Please send me a link to some of these successful socialist societies.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cuba, Vietnam, and Laos for starters China went from a century of humiliation to a superpower in less then a century thanks to socialism. The USSR was better than the feudalism before it or the dictatorships of the bourgeoisie that came after it by a wide margin. For a place much poorer than the US, they had similar nutrition, better education, more rights for women both legalistically and practically.

Oh, throw in east Germany too. Do you know what the Stasi did to the lgbt movement that they saw as subversive? Destroy it by ending discrimination against gay and trans people, including a massive education campaign to eradicate homophobia and transphobia and state funded gay bars. Compare that to how the US was treating gay people at the time.

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