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[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Mince you into fertilizer 😂 Reminds me of Soylent Green and Oddworld

[–] MenKlash@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Tell me how you don't know the difference between corporatocracy and capitalism without telling me how you don't know the difference between corporatocracy and capitalism.

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Neato@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah no shit it reads 'lemmy', everyone here is in this meme

Fake. There are no women here.

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For the anti-capitalists, I have a genuine question (sorry, I couldn't find an "ask a commie" community):

In the capitalist system there is a movement called Financial Independence Retire Early (FIRE) where people commit to living frugally in an effort to maximize savings and investments. The goal is to achieve a balance that allows you live off a safe withdrawal rate (around 3.5-4%) and then leave the workforce at an earlier than normal age. Some people commit to a life of minimalism and lean-FIRE with under $20k in investment income per year. I believe there is significant overlap with the van-life crowd and other nomadic lifestyles.

Is this lifestyle compatible with, or is there a similar lifestyle within a communist system? To expand, can those with a different set of priorities trade away their later working days in exchange for less material things?

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What? There are plenty of communist Lemmy subs you can ask in. I just think you haven't tried hard enough.

To answer your question tho, no - because there would be no need. Communism does want mandatory participation, but if checked and balanced correctly everyone would work within their limits and not be relegated to a lower class of living - because that's sort of the point of communism. You'd work within your means until there was time to retire without being limited in access to services and goods. Theoretically, under a functioning communist system, there would be no manufactured scarcity.

Tbh I believe both communism and our current form of capitalism centralises power and ownership way too much. Social-capitalism, or even libertarian socialism, might be the ticket. It would undo at least 200 years of psy-ops and gamed laws designed to favour the rich and vesting power in them, which is the issue of centralised power that we're facing today - in what some call "late-stage capitalism" - or what I call the breaking point of society under a predatory, exploitative and imperialistic form of capitalism that seems more like the privatisation of the aristocracy than the supposed liberalisation of economy. Transparency, accountability and consequences for people in power and wealth is what's sorely needed.

PS: New public management is a con-job disguised as decentralisation meant to encumber governments under the guise of checking and balancing them, being effectively a psy-op in of itself to make people hate public services and taxes. As per usual, goddamn liberals - and I include socially conservative liberals in that polifical grouping. Dems and pubs are the same, want the same institutions and promote US imperialism - not fiscal independence, no matter what justification and mental gymnastics they put in the form of spreadsheets.

PPS: Also, additionally, commodification of the housing market was a mistake. It will always be stupid and harmful towards society.

[–] Flumsy@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So everybody on Lemmy is non-capitalist is what you're saying?

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A large proportion of Lemmy are not pro-capitalist, yes.

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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Does anyone here own capital? As in being haut bourgeoisie? Probably not.

If you support capitalism and you're not a capitalist you're just a bootlicker.

[–] huge_clock@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

You wouldn’t be any better off on a socialist system. The people at the top of the party would control everything and the working class would be even poorer than they are now. You’re just licking the left boot instead of the right one.

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[–] EternalNicodemus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Capitalism is a good library, it's the devs that implement it wrongly 😭

[–] bobble@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wealth redistribution is good. Socialism definitely could end up being better than capitalism with the right implementation and regulations. A socialist revolution is a bad idea; wealth redistribution can be implemented in capitalism. Lobbying is real, but voting still makes a difference. Vote in more than just the presidential election and canvas for issues or politicians you support. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

[–] pizzahoe@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

These capitalist and billionaire cocksuckers sure love socialism when they socialise their losses and fucking take our tax payer money to bail themselves out. if you're working class and don't support socialism, you should look into it more. Propaganda from these blood sucking billionaire ghouls have made most of us blind to the better life socialism can offer us.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That isnt socialism, thats the capitalist state doing its job of protecting capital. Socialism is when the proletariat own the means of production.

[–] pizzahoe@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes i agree. Just pointing out the fact there's no free market. When they lose, they still win by taking our hard earned money and using it to further their interests. I'd be happier if it were used for our welfare instead.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, this one touched some nerves.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’d recommend posting a tangentially political meme at some point on Lemmy.

The amount of people who will come out of the woodwork to tell you ‘don’t post this’ and ‘don’t make things political’ will really be eye opening.

People don’t want to address systemic issues and think not talking about them is a viable solution.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just making comments about rich people and their taxes seems to do the same thing here.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don't even have to go THAT far, I get called a commie for saying a 40 hour work week should provide basic shelter these days. 🤷

If we want to live in boring reality, it doesn't happen a LOT but way more than it should.

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[–] wasd4321@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

holy shit can we see an actual meme on this instance?

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