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Yo linux team, i would love some advice.

I’m pretty mad at windows, 11 keeps getting worse and worse and I pretty done with Bill’s fetishes about bing and ai. Who knows where’s cortana right now…

Anyway, I heard about this new company called Linux and I’m open to try new stuff. I’m a simple guy and just need some basic stuff:

  • graphic stuff: affinity, canva, corel, gimp etc.. (no adobe anymore, please don’t ask.)
  • 3d modelling and render: blender, rhino, cinema, keyshot
  • video editing: davinci
  • some little coding in Dart/flutter (i use VS code, I don’t know if this is good or bad)
  • a working file explorer (can’t believe i have to say this)
  • NO FUCKIN ADS
  • NO MF STUPID ASS DISGUSTING ADVERTISING

The tricky part is the laptop, a zenbook duo pro (i9-10/rtx2060), with double touch screens.

I tried ubuntu several years ago but since it wasn’t ready for my use i never went into different distros and their differences. Now unfortunately, ready or not, I need to switch.

Edit: the linux-company thing is just for triggering people, sorry I didn’t know it was this effective.

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[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (49 children)

First of all Linux isn't a company, but the name some dude named Linus gave his code he put for free on the internet.

Most modern Linux distros are still not run by companies, that's why they don't force the data collection, ads, ai etc down your throat.

That said: Linux is made from thousands of interlocking programs, scripts, services and libraries, made mostly by some guys or gurls in their free time. So with a lot of stuff you need to fit it to your needs, as granular customization is to troublesome to have working out of the box for every different usecase there could be. So with most stuff you should not be afraid to learn the basics of terminal commands (packet manager, editor, foldermanagment)

Some OS like Ubuntu and manjaro do a lot for you, but if you have weird double monitors, you may need to manually do some stuff.

If you want as much as possible easy install options I would go with manjaro - then you can install everything where users made an AUR (arch user repository) package. Check if they have all programs you want, if not look for alternatives.

If you want a more stable system but with a bit less possibilities, go for Ubuntu, debian, popOS or something like that.

Some things may never run, for example for my music daw(ableton) with low latency and not native support on Linux or the htc vive wireless (where there isn't a driver for the PCI card for Linux) I keep a win machine around. Day to day use is on debian on my side

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (27 children)

I would swap out Manjaro for Endeavour.

I started off with Manjaro, and updates kept breaking shit. Only reason it was usable for me, was that I kept timeshift going so I could recover from an unbootable state if updates borked something.

Especially if OPs system is unusual, I wouldn't trust Manjaro. I've yet to need timeshift on my Endeavour install, while setting it up to do the same things was no more difficult.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 10 points 6 months ago (21 children)

Dude is just starting out, no matter what arch derivative you're suggesting, it's a bad idea. Flatpak is perfectly fine for installing fresher versions of those packages AFAIK.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dude writes code, that makes me a lot more comfortable recommending an arch install of some kind. Endeavour especially, as it sets you up at a very good starting point without doing messy shit like Manjaro.

Agreed on flatpak, it's fine.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dude writes code, that makes me a lot more comfortable recommending an arch install of some kind.

You drive trucks for a living, so you should commute in a rocket car that breaks down randomly. Or are you going to be a chicken and choose something slower, but far more dependable?

Agreed on flatpak, it's fine.

It's pretty counterproductive to suggest something that requires significantly more maintenance if the features are not required. So if flatpak is fine, there's no need for arch, unless the OP is FOMOing for plasma 6 or something.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Whoa.

You seem to be a lot more vehement about this than I am. Not to mention confidently uninformed on arch.

I don't think this is worth getting into further. You've already decided I'm some kind of elitist, deserving of insulting analogies thrown at them.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You seem to be a lot more vehement about this than I am.

No, I'm simply standing behind my initial statement, and pointing out why your counter argument is bad.

Not to mention confidently uninformed on arch.

Wat is arch? I only used it and its derivatives on multiple devices for multiple years in my 15+ years of Linux

I don't think this is worth getting into further. You've already decided I'm some kind of elitist, deserving of insulting analogies thrown at them.

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If you think a hyperbolised analogy is an insult, take care of your delicate constitution and don't risk maladies by entering discussions on the internet.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No, I'm simply standing behind my initial statement, and pointing out why your counter argument is bad.

It's not though.

Wat is arch? I only used it and its derivatives on multiple devices for multiple years in my 15+ years of Linux

Good for you.

If you think a hyperbolised analogy is an insult, take care of your delicate constitution and don't risk maladies by entering discussions on the internet.

I mean, if my assumption that you were being mean-spirited before was strenuous, this and linking that video makes it a sealed deal.

You can't get under my skin, but that doesn't mean you're not being shitty by trying.

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