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Hey y'all

So I've been a big anti-Wayland shill around here but decided to finally give it a shot, I installed Debian 12 with GNOME, and can't seem to get Plank working.

Without the Plank dock, GNOME is unusable, and KDE refuses to autostart Guake (does not save the setting in autostart), and when it works it seems broken (stuck to the left side of the screen).

These are fundamental apps to me for any decent Linux laptop use. What gives? Is there an alternative?

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The Dash to Plank dev doesn't want to support Wayland. You could use Dash to Panel or dash to dock instead, they've been the community favourites for years now.

Or of course you could use the standard Gnome workflow.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've never heard of either of these things and I've been in the community for decades, cheers. I only use Plank itself, not dash-to-x anything. I've no idea what that even means tbh as I'm an i3 user usually so I've been out of the GNOME game for a bit.

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if you're coming from i3, you may want to check out Sway instead.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

it's a drop-in replacement for i3 on wayland

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wayland doesn't even support i3? Jesus

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

i3 doesn't support Wayland, not the other way around. It's an X11 window manager. Not sure why you would expect it to work on Wayland.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago

Oh I just thought if this change to Wayland is being pushed so hard by peeps here then that would mean at least the basics work on it haha, well that makes sense.

Not sure why

Don't really know what the technical differences are as I'm not a Linux expert by any means especially not when it comes to the relationship between the kernel and the display server, (Def gonna try to learn more with LFS soon tho!) or why Wayland hasn't added support for window managers yet.

Gonna have to stick with Xorg until the Wayland folks make Xorg software compatible