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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (34 children)

What happened to separating art from the artist?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (12 children)

Le Demoiselle de Avignon may be a revolting exploitation and sexist display by a renowned, womanizing misogynist, but it’s also a fantastic example of form, style, cubism, an illustration of the shift from art nouveau to art deco, and, frankly, a celebration of the female form. I’ve even heard it argued that it empowers sex workers, although I’ve also heard some fierce debate about that.

My point is that, when exercising the nuanced discretion of “separating the art from the artist”, the “art” in question should, at least, be of sufficient redeeming value to consider overriding the distaste for the artist in order to consider the value of the art, especially when considering the overall contributions to art (on the general sense) made by the artist in question (nobody reasonable would dare question Picasso’s contributions to the art world, for example, despite home being a contemptible person).

W. Bush, on the other hand, is no Picasso— and even Picasso, the shitbag he was, was no war criminal. And he certainly hated fascists.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The only thing I would disagree with in this take would be who are you to judge what is and isn't of sufficient redeeming value to override to state of the artist? I would argue that art by definition is subjective and as such making any objective arguments or claims to discredit an artwork simply due to its creator is therefore invalid.

[–] livus@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago

Seems to me @gregorum is talking about Demoiselles d'Avignon's impact on art a a whole. It was a very influential painting.

Bush on the other hand is only notable because of who painted it. It's a common naive realism style.

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