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[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They literally track disease by that thing that doesn't exist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_health

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

From your link:

In the study of race and health, scientists organize people in racial categories depending on different factors such as: phenotype, ancestry, social identity, genetic makeup and lived experience.

Overall, racial health disparities appear to be rooted in social disadvantages associated with race such as implicit stereotyping and average differences in socioeconomic status.

Cool cool I'm now totally convinced race is meaningful. How many races would you say there are? I probably agree.

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

yes, yes, you found a paragraph to be clever with, I'm so destroyed by facts and logic. (I wouldn't try count myself....a fucking lot.)

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If there are "a fucking lot" of races, are you sure you mean races, and not ethnicities?

I think race means like, "well there are several races of people: white people, black people, yellow people, brown people and red people" ...

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

ain't no red people and there more than a few black races that ain't african type black people.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm of the opinion that there aren't any biological races and that race is a social construct.

Is it your opinion that 'African type black people' are a single race?

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Well, you're wrong, you've some political reason to deny biological reality.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No I honestly don't. I also think you may not be as racist as you sound, I think you just don't understand the difference between race and ethnicity. How many 'black African' races do you think there are? Answering this question would help me figure out your understanding of ethnicity vs race.

Can you give some examples of the biological reality you think I'm denying? The Wikipedia article you cited did not support your position that race is biologically significant to health.

You didn't deny that 'yellow' is a race. (Again, I don't believe in races, you seem to) Can you tell me some biological realities that apply to 'yellow' people?

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not defining terms you understand like your monkey.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You say I'm in denial of biological reality but you refuse to give examples of how I am deluded. You are not arguing in good faith.

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Said the guy pretending to not understand basic terms, whether or not he agrees. (You disagreeing with those terms' practical existence is the example)

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mate, no. I understand the practical existence of race (well... to the extent a nonracialized person can) what I'm talking about is the expert consensus that: the matter of where the boundaries between races get drawn is determined by social factors, not biological.

The question of whether an ethnicity was (and is) 'white' or not was a political question, not a biological one.

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Oh look. Gobblygook