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[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The EV industry can’t shake its human rights abuse problem

Because nearly all these stories pushed by the fossil fuel industry have been debunked. Meanwhile burning fossil fuels ALONE kills more than 250,000 people every year in the US.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I don’t think the mining stuff has been debunked. But if you have a source for its debunking, please share

[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

EVs can be better than ICEs and still a terrible industry though. You phrase it as if it's one or the other.

Regardless of abuse allegations, EVs are just not the big improvement we need to fight climate change and save the millions of people that will die because of it. We need fundamental changes like lives built around public transport, biking, and walking, not slightly better vehicles in an enormously wasteful model.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You couldn’t be more wrong. ICE alone kills more than 250,000 people a year in the US alone from air pollution. And converting transportation from 100% fossil fuel to grid electrification is delayed but 100% necessary to have ANY effect on climate change. I meant to phrase it as one or the other as we need to eliminate all fossil fuel burning ASAP.

[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Right, air pollution is terrible. So let's do the thing that minimizes it, which is not driving all the time.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Completely unrealistic delusional comment. People are going to drive.

For every percent increase in EVs on the road, the air pollution decreases an equivalent percent.

[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Actually a lot of people don't drive most of the time. If that's news to you then you probably live in a shitty place that's never going to be viable no matter what type of vehicle you use.