Same. Me too. When i buy meat, then it's only organic and the best ethical treatment I can find. And also waaaaaay less in general. It just became bad in every sense of way and plant-based stuff has gotten so much better over the last 3 decades.

Only thing that pisses me off is that the food my food eats is even more expensive for no apparent reason (edit: yes ofc i know the socio-economic reasons. As a consumer i just don't care. That's what i meant)

[–] Makeshift@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Meat and dairy are heavily subsidized by the government (at least in US). Government subsidies for animal agriculture allow them to sell for cheaper because they can sell for less than what it actually costs to make.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

I know. Same here. Probably the same everywhere. But still pissing me off

[–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing ethical about exploiting and slaughtering an innocent living creature.

I'm not implying anything about your diet, just requesting you break free from the 'muh local farm humane' propaganda and stop deluding yourself.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip -3 points 6 months ago

I know. I was an animal rights activist once (in a time where "vegan" was either an insult or noone knew what it even was). Based on way too much knowledge about what we do with other beings.

And i didn't say "it's ethical", but a local farm where the cows got names and live a great life (up until they stop doing so) surely beats industrialized farming ethically. I doubt you wanna argue there, except you only can live in a binary world (harm/don't harm) . But that would be impossible as a vegan. Unless you're one (i just assumed) because it's fashionable or trendy or just edgy.

Btw something being "humane" doesn't really mean anything ethical. Being sadistic shit-sticks who rape the whole planet raw until there's nothing left is actuallly very "humane". No other species is that horribly aweful.