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[โ€“] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 43 points 6 months ago (40 children)

I guess they figure anyone who volunteers is already braindead so what's the harm. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

[โ€“] EatATaco@lemm.ee 20 points 6 months ago (25 children)

It's shocking, but not at all surprising, that one of the top comments here is calling desperate sick suffering people "brain dead" for taking a risk to try and get better, or help advance a technology to help people similarly suffering in the future.

I guess our hatred of musk exceeds our compassion for the sick.

[โ€“] atrielienz@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (24 children)

Even you think something must be wrong with them if they're agreeing to this. Just because you lean more toward an ailment that would make someone desperate rather than someone being deficient in congestive function doesn't mean you're any better. Like. I get it. It's hard to imagine a regular person just thinking one day it's a good idea to sign up to let a company run by Elon Musk implant anything into their body (especially their brain). But this is a bit of a high horse riding comment, isn't it?

[โ€“] Argonne@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The FDA is only approving this for clinical use, so yes, there is something wrong with them. Healthy people won't be installing chips into their brain. Probably not in our lifetimes at least as the tech is not safe enough

[โ€“] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This comment is not arguing in the spirit of the original comments or my own. Healthy people absolutely do want this technology for the sheer amount of convenience it could provide. Hence the number of science fiction stories about it. The thing is though, assuming that anyone who would sign up for a clinical trial must be sick is an interesting take especially in response to someone else positing that anyone who would do it is stupid or crazy. People can be perfectly healthy and still participate in clinical trials. For lots of reasons to include simply wanting to progress the science.

[โ€“] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There is a lot of legal limits for medical procedures not in the pursuit of documented illnesses. You will have a very hard time finding someone willing to take off a working arm for a protestic for example.

[โ€“] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I mean. That's also not what I was arguing although I did bring up that healthy people do want this technology too, so I can see how we got here. We aren't arguing the motive of the people signing up for or participating in this or any clinical trial. We are arguing whether or not we can judge others for assuming the motives of those signing up, and whether our judgements are any better.

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