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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 282 points 5 months ago (102 children)

Lol. This is the party they want to replace 'genocide joe' with. Well done, kids!

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 87 points 5 months ago (39 children)

Yes but see, if we just sit on our hands and don't vote we won't have any responsibility for what follows! Only voting for someone who is less than ideal on this issue is a morally bad choice!

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So you're saying if I vote, I'll be complicit and won't have anything to complain or blame others about, and have to take responsibility for the consequence of my vote? Fuck that shit!

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think I said that. Can you show me where I did?

I will say that you have a slice of responsibility over the future, and you'll have to live with the consequences of whatever decision you end up making - including the one where you sit on your hands. No matter what you do, you can still complain about it, but the future will be whichever one we collectively steer to. One of those possible futures is worse than the other. So it seems to me that we should steer away from it, rather than wrong our hands about how we don't like the choices. Sure, you don't like the choices. They're the choices regardless. Model the outcomes of each possibility, decide which one you hate the least and steer towards it, because we are getting a future selected from among the possibilities. Jesus is not going to rapture us out of this.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Forgot the /s. But the kids seem to believe that sitting it out in protest is better than voting the lesser of 2 evils. This is how a dictator comes into power. Agree with everything you said.

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I've been having this argument a lot lately, so the sarcasm shit right past me. It's exhausting trying to get people to understand that no, really, genocide a * 3 plus additional genocide b is worse than genocide a alone.

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