People saying FF is slower: like how much slower? are we taking like 14 millisecond slower? Cause everything seems pretty instantaneous here. Maybe its because i'm old enough to remember DSL and 56k internet, but I think FF os crazy fast and even if Chrome would be 25% faster I wouldn't switch to evil google for that.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It used to be a lot slower, which is why when Chrome showed up with its shiny new V8 engine (and other features) people switched from Firefox en masse. Now the performance difference is no longer noticeable.

[–] celeste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago

Ye a few months ago I remember that the benchmarks showed firefox was just as fast as chrome again or minimally faster/slower in certain benchmarks

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

61 Firefox windows and 427 tabs (don't judge, I know I have a problem) and I have no performance complaints - admittedly, not all of them are active/rendering simultaniously, but still...

Firefox (and its forks) have been my go-to for 15 years.

[–] smowtenshi@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm actually interested what you have open with this many windows.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

indeed! had I not posted this, I would be asking the same question!

so, its quite a bit more mundane than you might have hoped for.

a mix of...

~40% locally served internal pages (mostly zabbix, mail/web server monitoring, some development pages, etc).
~60% non-local pages - currently lots of retro computing stuff, debian stuff, github (sigh)

the most recent page I opened was an archive.org page on TI-84 firmware disassembly.

I make heavy use of Firefox containers for separation. honestly, Firefox is an absolute workhorse for me. if the Firefox ecosystem were to fall into the void, I would be dead in the water.

[–] smowtenshi@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

That's a really interesting set of pages!

I remember opening hundreds of random github repos and starring them for "further research", and never looking at them again.

Also yes, life without Firefox would be miserable.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-Chrome-109-Benchmarks

I wish firefox was faster but benchmarks are pretty common, it's not hard to test. It's kind of an unfair fight at this point honestly, large swaths of the web are just built for chrome. There are other benchmark options out there, but even using Mozilla's own kraken benchmarking solution, it loses tremendously more than it wins. I honestly really respect them for not building their benchmarking system to make their solutions come out on top.

In some benchmarks the lag from firefox is very significant and then on the other hand, when firefox does win, chrome is usually right behind it. It's not ideal.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Last time I tried it? Like freeze and be unresponsive on my phone for seconds at a time slow. (My phone doesn't lock up though, I can still go to the home screen, swipe to see notifications so it's not the phone locking up completely)

[–] CDenno@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Yes, this. Many pages have a 5-15 second blank delay for reasons I can't figure out when using Firefox. I still use Firefox, but that delay is rough on my blood pressure some days.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

It's clear, slower is relative. FF is slower in the startup and rendering some heavy loading webs, but the difference certainly isn't sooo dramatic. It's not a reason to avoid it, the only reason depends of the use of a browser, if it fits your needs or not.