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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (32 children)

Socialists don't hate markets, they hate workers not having any power or democratic choice in how they interact in the market.

Workers owning the means of production just means the workers are doing the same work but they are in ownership of the factory and the profits. They will still sell the products they produce in a marketplace.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Do they actually trust their coworkers to run the company without tanking it almost immediatly? Most of my coworkers can barely make it through their own tasks without fucking something up, let alone actually having input on how the business is run.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most of my coworkers can barely make it through their own tasks without fucking something up

This is a problem with the company you work for, not your coworkers. I'm sure if they were paid more, were given more agency, and received better training, they'd be better elployees

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Either that or the reason they purposefully hire meth-addled freaks is because they want desperate people who won't fight for any of those things.

Source: Friend who works in a warehouse and has coworkers who are obviously there to get a paycheck to afford their fix and then move on. It's the company culture. They could choose to hire better people, or mentor the people who could grow, they don't.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they're just idiots. Myself and others have had the same training and responsibilities and do fine. It's not that difficult of a job.

[–] hexachrome@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

i shall surely reap the rewards of working at the same level as these irredeemably dumb people. then i will prove my point online or something

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