Or we could just let people do what they want on their own god damn computers.
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I got accused of mansplaining because I was helping someone on a tech support call (they were taking the call to support a user, and I was assisting them) and I started with the basic information they'd need to understand the problem and how to fix it. After the call she turned around to the guy next to her and complained about it and he was just like, "oh, no, he's like that with everyone".
My philosophy was based on the fact that our managers hired people for people skills over technical background because they assumed the tech stuff could be trained and that if someone was asking me for help there was a gap in their knowledge somewhere and I had no way to know where it was other than to begin at the beginning and work through it. Most people appreciated it. But some were full of themselves and got pissed about it, those types typically didn't last very long on that job.
How has this guy not had his ass beat for being cringe yet?
Presidents can be sworn in on whatever they want. At least one has used something else, although I don't recall who or what it was.
Be kind to others, the game is rigged against them. Propaganda has never been stronger and its everywhere.
No, we're long past the point where not being able to think critically about the shit we're fed is acceptable. Misinformation has been rampant for decades. Anyone still swallowing it deserves all the criticism coming their way. People still buy into Trump's bullshit for fucks sake. Fuck em.
You’re living in a fantasy world.
Says the guy who thinks handing over control of the internet to authoritarian dipshits is going to end well.
As for kids being ‘allowed’ to see it, dude, seriously? Even before the internet, kids were getting porn in grade school. Again, you’re basing your take on some magical fantasy land, with kids who obey every rule, and citizens who are inherently moral.
Then this ban serves no purpose.
Maybe you should worry about how the unfiltered media channels in the US has resulted in your country destroying itself, rather than try to pass judgement on other nations choices to try and support dumb-men from being coerced into being loser incel manosphere andrew tate emulating right-wing drool factories.
Porn sites aren't funneling people into manosphere shit. They only direct to more porn and like 80% of it is incest shit at this point so practically everyone is viewing at least some of it. Not just incels.
your whole country basically plugged its fucking ears and instead of addressing the issue presented by toxic masculinity, you fucktards elected toxic masculine role models who are now dismantling any respect or good will America may’ve had, threatening to genocide entire civilizations and to attack your allies. That’s where your position leads in reality.
That happened because people aren't taught to think critically . So no, my position doesn't lead to this. NOT doing my position leads to it, and again, porn didn't lead people into that shit either.
Not sure how you got
“Well, I, as an AMERICAN, don’t know this so its WRONG!”
From
Never heard of it, and looking it up I don’t see any controversy surrounding it so not sure what you’re referring to here.
Missing one Netflix show is hardly "Not being aware of other cultures".
“let them figure it out themselves, no social supports or regulations! Freedom! Freedom to be techno fascists!!”
That's not what I said. I said teach people to think critically so they can distinguish reality from fantasy. That's the opposite of letting them figure it out on their own, it requires a great deal of input from those around them while they are growing up. The right wing hates critical thinking, they want us blindly consuming anything put in front of us while they censor anything they find objectionable. Sounds more like your stance to me.
Your comments about 16 year olds being old enough
I said old enough to know right from wrong. Not any of the other shit you implied. I didn't say they were old enough to not be coerced or taken advantage of. 16 year olds shouldn't even be part of this discussion. They are already prohibited from viewing porn by the draconion ID laws.
I disagree that 16 year olds are old enough to be capable of fully understanding the influence media has on them (something most american adults don’t even comprehend
That's because people aren't taught to think critically. We're taught to memorize and regurgitate facts while our leaders try to absolve everyone from responsibility for their own actions by blaming porn, or comic books, or movies, or video games, or whatever the next scary thing of the week is. That has never and will never solve anything.
So you're resorting to insults instead of arguing any of my actual points and acting as if geography has anything to do with it. I think we're done here.
Thanks, Gonna check this one out then, having multiple play queues sounds awesome. Currently I'm having to use VLC and blackplayer so I can go back and forth between podcasts and music without losing my place.
So do you oppose DEI and representation of minorities in media then with the same gusto and ferver?
No, people producing media can cast whoever they want. I just don't think it has as much impact on the viewer as your statements implies. People may take inspiration from it but any rational individual understands that what they are consuming is not representing reality whether it's positive or negative. You may think superman is cool and want to emulate his ideals to try to be a better person, but you're not going to jump off the roof unless there's something wrong with you.
Do you oppose all social programs that aim to correct systemic biases that negatively impact different demographic slices?
No, and this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Or on the flip side, do you think that snuff/torture films should be normalised, as they’re just ‘fantasy’ and any sane person should just ‘know’ that you shouldn’t do that sort of thing?
It's certainly not my thing but I don't think they should be censored (assuming the content is fake, otherwise it's already a crime and there's already systems in place to deal with that). It is fantasy and you should know not to do that sort of thing. Again real life experience should be sufficient for a person to learn that hurting people is bad.
“People’ve been dealing drugs forever, and they’re going to continue dealing drugs – it doesn’t matter if 99% of drug dealers depicted in media are black!”. It’s the same principle.
I don't know where you got this quote from. It's certainly not something I said nor do I think that stat is accurate.
Why do you make an exception for this particular case? My guess would be that it applies more personally to you, and you find that uncomfortable, so you’re trying to defend your preferred dumb monkey content.
I'm not making any exceptions. My opinion on censorship is consistent for all types of media. If I don't like something I don't watch it. I don't try to emulate everything I see in front of me.
My guess would be that it applies more personally to you, and you find that uncomfortable, so you’re trying to defend your preferred dumb monkey content. But we’re all dumb monkeys, and we gotta look out for each other.
I don't give a shit about incest porn. It's the same as most of the rest of it just with different labels on the characters. I'm not defending it. I'm arguing that your reasoning for being against it is bad. Because I'm not a monkey and I'm capable of critical thought.
Hell, the UK had a pretty big “wake the fuck up” moment with the series “Adolescence”
Never heard of it, and looking it up I don't see any controversy surrounding it so not sure what you're referring to here.
it isn’t up to the impressionable 16 year old kid to make sure he comes of age in a culture that provides a positive sexual environment, but rather it’s up to (presumably) adults/people like you to look out for that kids well being, and ensure he’s not being exposed to misleading tropes.
16 is certainly old enough to know right from wrong. That said I agree it's up to adults to provide guidance to younger people. I disagree on the method. We are never going to be able to censor away every piece of objectionable content a kid may run across. What we can do is teach them moral values and to think critically about the differences between media they are consuming and reality. Doing so prepares them for whatever they may encounter and results in a more well rounded individual as a bonus.
Hard disagree. People are responsible for there actions. Not the media they consume. We live in the real world with a multitude of influences to teach us how to act right. Media is fantasy, you can derive inspiration from it but it's not a guideline for behavior. Literally talking to a single individual woman should be sufficient to show a rational individual that pornography is not depicting real scenarios. Millions of people are watching this shit and there's a handful who are a problem and is there actually even a direct link between their actions and having viewed this shit? People have been sexually assaulting their children and subordinates for as long as there have been people. Assholes are always going to be assholes.
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It won't unless they can prevent people from stealing IDs. Which they can't.