Lemmy is an echo chamber too. Pro-Linux, anti-Google, pro-Socialism, anti-conservative. I'm still here because I happen to agree with the echo chamber, but let's not pretend that a diversity of ideas are allowed equal say on this platform.

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A lot of ideas don't deserve a platform or airtime and people need to realize that. The world is getting more fucked every day because people think that conservatives, fundamentalists, corporations and their bootlickers, and all the other fascist scum have a right to spew their shitty ideas for everyone to hear. Those ideas are sorthless though and they need to be silenced.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There are ideas that don't deserve a platform (like literal Nazis) and then there are ideas that are not allowed on here because disagreement itself unacceptable. To give a non-politial example, imagine someone who made a post explaining why they like Windows better than Linux. That's one out of many opinions that are simply not allowed on here.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't know man, I like Linux but use windows because it's easier to use with less hoops to jump through and I've said so on here without much backlash.

But windows / linux seems more like a meme on here than people actually fighting over it. Like I myself will sometimes make a PC MASTER RACE joke, but don't actually give a shit what people game on.

But, back to your original point, I'd genuinely like more examples of things you think you are not allowed to say on here. I don't like echo chambers so I think if there are valid points they deserve discussion.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's hard to give examples because any example that I give could be explained away by alternate explanations. But as someone who posts a lot on here, it does feel like going against the dominant narrative, even jokingly will get you down voted. Like, for example, if I said that I believed in a smaller government, it doesn't really matter what reasoning I have behind it because that's a conservative POV.

Personally I'm a Democrat and I also try not to let down votes stop me from expressing my own opinions. But there are certain viewpoints (that are not bigoted) that are extremely unpopular here.

I don't think giving a list of examples will convince you otherwise; in my experience people are more likely to just argue about the examples in order to resist the point.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Alright man, no worries. Happy new year.

[–] blaine@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I asked a question the other day that gave the appearance that I might sympathise with a conservative viewpoint, and it was the most downvoted post of my entire life within 30 minutes. Let me reiterate - I was downvoted en masse for asking a good faith question and not accepting the Democratic narrative as a given. Folks instantly assumed I must be asking the question with an (conservative) answer already in mind, and dogpiled me for it.

Ironically enough, there was one good faith reply that answered my question and resulted in me ultimately agreeing with the Lemmy-approved viewpoint. But I almost didn't get that answer due to the amount of bad-faith responses and downvotes I was swamped with.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Got a link? I'd love to see the thread. People online always assume the worst motives usually, unfortunately.

[–] jaeme@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago

To give a non-politial example, imagine someone who made a post explaining why they like Windows better than Linux.

You're just projecting. People have already made posts like these and they have always led to very heated discussions because news-flash: Windows and Free operating systems are very political topics that invite a lot of discussion.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They don’t need to be silenced but they don’t deserve an outrage powered megaphone to spread as much outrage for clicks as possible

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

I don't necessarily disagree with you but anyone is free to spin up their own instance for Google worship or conservative discourse. There's nothing standing in the way of that. I think your statement should be applied only to specific instances and not Lemmy/the Fediverse as a whole.