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I feel like we need to talk about Lemmy's massive tankie censorship problem. A lot of popular lemmy communities are hosted on lemmy.ml. It's been well known for a while that the admins/mods of that instance have, let's say, rather extremist and onesided political views. In short, they're what's colloquially referred to as tankies. This wouldn't be much of an issue if they didn't regularly abuse their admin/mod status to censor and silence people who dissent with their political beliefs and for example, post things critical of China, Russia, the USSR, socialism, ...

As an example, there was a thread today about the anniversary of the Tiananmen Massacre. When I was reading it, there were mostly posts critical of China in the thread and some whataboutist/denialist replies critical of the USA and the west. In terms of votes, the posts critical of China were definitely getting the most support.

I posted a comment in this thread linking to "https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs" (WARNING: graphical content), which describes aspects of the atrocities that aren't widely known even in the West, and supporting evidence. My comment was promptly removed for violating the "Be nice and civil" rule. When I looked back at the thread, I noticed that all posts critical of China had been removed while the whataboutist and denialist comments were left in place.

This is what the modlog of the instance looks like:

Definitely a trend there wouldn't you say?

When I called them out on their one sided censorship, with a screenshot of the modlog above, I promptly received a community ban on all communities on lemmy.ml that I had ever participated in.

Proof:

So many of you will now probably think something like: "So what, it's the fediverse, you can use another instance."

The problem with this reasoning is that many of the popular communities are actually on lemmy.ml, and they're not so easy to replace. I mean, in terms of content and engagement lemmy is already a pretty small place as it is. So it's rather pointless sitting for example in /c/linux@some.random.other.instance.world where there's nobody to discuss anything with.

I'm not sure if there's a solution here, but I'd like to urge people to avoid lemmy.ml hosted communities in favor of communities on more reasonable instances.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 68 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I can't see those, specifically, but a similar pattern of mass community bans after even remotely criticizing an authoritarian regime is completely on brand for Dessalines.

I don't have record of the comment that triggered these, but when it's something like civility, it's usually just a comment removal and maybe a single community ban.

More of Dessalines getting his stanky tankie tightie-whities in a bunch

Dessalines bans people

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imagine that - a white dude who appropriates the moniker of an actual slave revolutionary as a symbol for his "cause" might be cringe and unhinged.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

See https://lemmy.world/comment/10467647

It seems this is just a new feature in the upcoming relase (the communities ban).

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Interesting.

Still, site bans for criticizing China is just as bad, if not worse as mass community banning.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but that fact is well known and at least this shows there was no particular intention to chastise the user - it was just a button press.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The punishment was easy, so the intent wasn't as great. You know, the difference between a bullet to the head and repeated bashing with a rock. I'm sure in all these instances, the lack of effort was a relief to the target of the action.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Every point can be supported with an analogy bad enough