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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's less that Communist States have massive intelligence networks on their own populace because they are Communist, and more that states kinda just do that. American privacy violations are horrifying.

The "difference" largely comes from bourgeois media overplaying the bad elements and underplaying the good elements of Communist projects, while downplaying the bad elements and overplaying the good elements of Capitalist projects.

Combine this with the widespread fact that the US intentionally infiltrates and destabilizes states that even flirt with Socialism in the Global South, with hundreds of assassination attempts on figures like Castro, and it starts to seem more reasonable.

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Indeed Communists never manipulated the media... Jesus!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did I at any point say they didn't? I was explaining why that happens, lmao.

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Knowing the why means that one sane person would not want to do the same mistake again if (s)he learned the lesson in the first place...

hope you get what I'm saying...

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

What "same mistakes?" Capitalism? Yes, I agree, we should abolish it and progress towards Socialism.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Literally everyone uses the media that way, media always has bias and if you're ignorant to it you should be more wary.

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Maybe it is time to start abolishing media and advertising in the first place...

*I bet a lot of those downvoting work in advertising/media... No pun intended.

[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Media nah leave it, advertising I'd absolutely be down for. Advertising and Marketing are essentially the science of tricking our brains, and when that lever is exposed to capital you get enshittification and misery.

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

All advertising is media, not all media is advertising 🤷‍♂️

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nah, the issue is capitalist control of it.

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 months ago