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[–] Voltage@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago (30 children)

The fuck?? Isn’t this anti competitive behaviour?

[–] rchive@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Is it more anti competitive than McDonald's only selling McDonald's burgers or preventing you from bringing Taco Bell tacos in from outside?

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

🙄 No it would be like Ford owning gas stations and pumping faster for Ford vehicles than Chevy.

[–] rchive@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's less restrictive than what I said. McDonald's won't let you bring tacos in at all, doesn't just make you wait at the door for 2 minutes, etc.

Edit: and to anyone quibbling with my McDonald's example saying you can in fact bring tacos in, that was just an illustration. I can find plenty of examples of one establishment not letting people bring food in from somewhere else.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't feel your analogy quite captures what is going on here because both McDonald's and Taco Bell are in the same business. Maybe if you explain it more.

Google owns a major web destination, YouTube, essentially a line of business in its own right, in addition to Chrome, also its own distinct product. Firefox competes with Chrome but Google is allegedly using market dominance with YouTube to make it harder for Firefox to compete.

If a company owns two products A and B and if A is used to access B, company cannot hinder competitors to A via fuckery in B.

This is the kind of thing that MS got in trouble for -- using Windows to tip the scales in favor of Internet Explorer by tightly integrating it into the OS.

McDonald's prohibiting people from using their restaurant, which is not itself a separate product with a separate market. Nobody is clamoring to go to McDonald's restaurant spaces to sit and eat. It's just part of the restaurant offering. So there is no leverage like there is with YouTube being used against a competitor for a totally different product. And besides, Taco Bell can do the same as McDonald's. They're on equal footing.

If in your analogy there were some other product that McDonald's owned that could penalize you for going to Taco Bell your analogy would work.

  • Google -- Ford
  • Mozilla -- Chevy
  • Firefox -- Chevy car
  • Chrome -- Ford Car
  • YouTube -- Ford gas station
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